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    Re: Lead free varmints

    200 with afternoon winds
    400 perfect conditions

    Much prefer the 50 gr varmageddon at 4000fps for any long work

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenAnnesRevenge View Post
    They shoot sub 1/2 moa out if my tikka 22-250
    37.0 gr varget
    4200 fps
    2.360" oal
    The didn't group worth a darn going any faster or slower.
    Btw the tikka sports a 1:12 twist so your mileage may vary as a 1:14 is recommended

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    So, how far can you reach out and touch a ground squirrel with the lead free load? Most of my test strings were seated to 2.370 coal. the rifle is a Browning A-bolt with a light barrel, has a 1 in 14 twist I think.

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    They shoot sub 1/2 moa out if my tikka 22-250
    37.0 gr varget
    4200 fps
    2.360" oal
    The didn't group worth a darn going any faster or slower.
    Btw the tikka sports a 1:12 twist so your mileage may vary as a 1:14 is recommended

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    The lead ban for varmints goes into effect state wide in July 2019. Worked up some test loads with two powders, 748 and 4064. Shooting the light weight no lead bullets is like playing wiffle ball. The 55 gr. Nosler ballistic tip lead bullets are good on ground squirrels out to 300 yards but I doubt the lead free 35 gr. bullets will be effective beyond 200 yards even with the high muzzle speeds. The best groups were about 1.25 inches but it was a breezy day and experimenting with seating depth may find acceptable accuracy. The lead free 35 gr. bullet is on the right.

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    Headed in another direction here, I thought that the Ca. lead ban for varmint's goes into effect in 2019? And another note, I have it from another very good source that not to many agencies up here in northern Ca. are going to give us much attention when it does go into effect. Another good recommendation if they do enforce it, simply move our shooting and $ over to Nevada. Don't even need a license to shoot ground squirrels there. Whalonem

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    Quote Originally Posted by CDK View Post
    The first thing is to find if your rifle likes them. I have had rifles that would not group in 6 inches with certain bullets but with the right fodder 1 inch at 200 yds was the norm.
    There is no such thing as one size fits all. with accuracy..
    People making the laws have no clue.
    Yeah, I had the same experience with my 22-250. Winchester factory rounds would group about 2 1/2 inches, whereas some of my hand reloads assembled with reasonable care using techniques described in loading manuals would produce 5 shot 100 yard groups that could be covered with a dime. I was just wondering if the lead free bullets made with compressed copper granules are capable of such fine accuracy and have the same violent explosive effect as lead core bullets. Opinions read online vary.

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    c-22 by CCi are good rounds. Expensive, but good


    edit: thought we were talking about rimfire, my bad

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    The first thing is to find if your rifle likes them. I have had rifles that would not group in 6 inches with certain bullets but with the right fodder 1 inch at 200 yds was the norm.
    There is no such thing as one size fits all. with accuracy..
    People making the laws have no clue.
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    Re: Lead free varmints

    Quote Originally Posted by burninfuel View Post
    I would slow them down to 3000 fps
    the fast ones might just disappear before hitting anything.
    like frangable bullets
    Nosler claims their lead free Ballistic Tip bullets retain structural integrity at "ultra-high" velocities. I'll try some at lower velocity if the bullets don't group well, just to see, but I want all the smack the 22-250 case provides if I can get it.

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    Re: Lead free varmints

    I would slow them down to 3000 fps
    the fast ones might just disappear before hitting anything.
    like frangable bullets

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