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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenAnnesRevenge View Post
    Sea lions also; migrated, were hunted, died on beaches when there were food shortages. You can't argue "natural order" when one species is protected and enhanced.
    Also- pinniped impact to salmon population is a very real thing, nmfs wouldn't study it and measure it If it wasn't

    A quote- ". Sacramento River winter chinook have been listed as endangered under the ESA. Papermill Creek, San Leandro River, Alameda Creek, and Sacramento River winter steelhead have been classified by the State as having a high risk of extinction and are of special concern for pinniped predation impacts"

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    They’re high risk because of human interference. Not because of natural predation. Where do you expect them to get their food? If you’re really gonna blame sea lions than stripers are more to blame than 2-3 sea lions in a river system. Ask the commercial industry to stop netting entire schools. Maybe sea lions will stop coming up river.
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    Re: Dang sea lions

    Quote Originally Posted by QueenAnnesRevenge View Post
    Sea lions also; migrated, were hunted, died on beaches when there were food shortages. You can't argue "natural order" when one species is protected and enhanced.
    Also- pinniped impact to salmon population is a very real thing, nmfs wouldn't study it and measure it If it wasn't

    A quote- ". Sacramento River winter chinook have been listed as endangered under the ESA. Papermill Creek, San Leandro River, Alameda Creek, and Sacramento River winter steelhead have been classified by the State as having a high risk of extinction and are of special concern for pinniped predation impacts"

    A link https://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/publicati...8/areas.htm#ca

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    Totally agree.....but man's intervention IS the problem ....not the animal.

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    Re: Dang sea lions

    Saw the furbags at Gristmill earlier this morning tossing around a sucker fish, at least I think it was a sucker fish. No joke, those f’ers are big. Definitely the biggest I’ve seen on the AR to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maulich View Post
    Sea lions we're around eating steelhead and salmon way before you were. To say they are the reason runs are lacking is nonsense........

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    Sea lions also; migrated, were hunted, died on beaches when there were food shortages. You can't argue "natural order" when one species is protected and enhanced.
    Also- pinniped impact to salmon population is a very real thing, nmfs wouldn't study it and measure it If it wasn't

    A quote- ". Sacramento River winter chinook have been listed as endangered under the ESA. Papermill Creek, San Leandro River, Alameda Creek, and Sacramento River winter steelhead have been classified by the State as having a high risk of extinction and are of special concern for pinniped predation impacts"

    A link https://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/publicati...8/areas.htm#ca

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    Re: Dang sea lions

    Mother nature on Mother nature is as should be!!! WE caused the dive! Yes water diversion is the biggest problem!

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    Sea lions we're around eating steelhead and salmon way before you were. To say they are the reason runs are lacking is nonsense........

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyer5 View Post
    Cal used to let fishermen shoot sea lions way back . In fact as soon as they started protecting the things the numbers of returning salmon/steelhead took a big nose dive.

    I hate the damn things personally, almost as much as I hate cats , they eat huge numbers of salmonids, and they sit at the river mouths, but no, bleeding heart cal weenies like to pretend you can have it both ways.

    Pretty sure the salmon dive is due to dams.

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    Re: Dang sea lions

    Cal used to let fishermen shoot sea lions way back . In fact as soon as they started protecting the things the numbers of returning salmon/steelhead took a big nose dive.

    I hate the damn things personally, almost as much as I hate cats , they eat huge numbers of salmonids, and they sit at the river mouths, but no, bleeding heart cal weenies like to pretend you can have it both ways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjb View Post
    Saw a huge sea lion up at Hancil Hoffman today.
    Why didn't you shoot it?

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    Re: Dang sea lions

    Saw a pretty good size sea lion up The Chetco 12/31/17.
    i was amazed to see it up in skinny water.

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