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    I guess we are veering into a tangent, but so many people in this country have apparently decided big government socialism is what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetspray View Post
    Ours is going the same way, tons of gun laws and restrictions of them to us, trying to make the legislature year round again, trying to start a state income tax, getting rid of prostitution and their revenues, trying to put more taxes on Casino's and Hotels without permission of the voters. What's next from the dummycrats, tax the air? It is just as messed up here too......Jetspray
    Remember the "Education Initiative" bill that the voters turned down a while back, by a huge margin? The legislators passed it anyway. So much for input from the "people".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinner View Post
    That is one messed up state!
    Ours is going the same way, tons of gun laws and restrictions of them to us, trying to make the legislature year round again, trying to start a state income tax, getting rid of prostitution and their revenues, trying to put more taxes on Casino's and Hotels without permission of the voters. What's next from the dummycrats, tax the air? It is just as messed up here too......Jetspray
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    This year was about clarifying and streamlining the regs. Next year is about hatcheries.

    I did ask about diploid/triploid fish. Answer from one of the biologist was "depending on body of water, it's relation to native trout and needs of that fishery will determine whether diploid or triploid trout will be planted." Both are currently being planted throughout the state. I also asked if goldens or cutts could be planted (maybe instead of rainbows) outside of their range to extend angler opportunities and was told "it could be possible to plant trout species (dip or trip) IF there is a desire in an area and IF they have enough eggs from broodstock." More on that conversation next year when hatcheries become the focus.

    One other point made at the meeting was that the current trend of many anglers to catch and release without any retention was actually hurting many bodies of water. If no fish are kept, population increases, competition for food increases, leading to a smaller grade of fish. Kirman lake was an example given. The brooks have actually become smaller due to the planting of cutts (which one DFW person at the meeting wanted to stop) and anglers are not keeping the fish they could.

    Again, lots of info at the meeting. And like at last year's meeting, the DFW representatives seem very open minded to what the local and state anglers want to see. For the first time in a very long time, DFW wants to hear from us and what we want, so make your voice heard by filling out the comments online or attending one of the public comment meetings.

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    Did anyone mention going back to Planting Un-sterile fish and having the season Start after the spawn ???? till say November ?? because the more you go then the less fish we get and You all Know the Fees will go up the same . fishing all season is Not a way to save fish but to deplete the system of the fish . how many times have we heard the DFW say we have a Budget crisis and we have to reduce out Plants or the feed for hatchery fish are to Much or we have a drought of sorts they they Just screw up and forget to run the pumps at the raceways and Kill fish or even have a Fish kill because they want one or a flood comes and wiped out the fish hatchery and they have no Money to fix Crap but yet for some reason Our State has money to Build Shelter and give some, free healthcare and education???? Come one now!! lets not play Stupid!!!!With all The Biologist that are Experts in there Field they should know what is best for the Fish and regulations to keep the species to flourish!! Regulations are a mess because those that Don`t fish are making them! and Special Interest Groups with Coin Help make those choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowtrout View Post
    Went to the meeting last night in Fresno. The changes are because there are many different seasons for trout fishing, leading to the regs being confusing for many people. Basically, too many special interest group have had their proposals implemented, creating one hot mess of a reg book.

    They idea is to simplify the seasons to: open all year, closed all year, open end of May to end of Feb, open end of May to Sept, open end of Sept to end of May. The March-end of May closure is primarily to protect spring spawning trout (goldens, rainbows, cutts). Limits and size restrictions are also proposed to simplify things.

    One thing the presenters from the DFW stressed is these changes are an idea, not set in stone and can be changed to what anglers and communities want or would like. At the Bishop meeting, the eastern Sierra community didn't like the season changes and preferred the traditional end of April through Nov 15, primarily for economic reasons (no space to sell both ski and fishing equipment at the same time), so it is possible those dates will return and be retained for that area.

    So, if you do not like something that is being proposed, make it known. Give specific reasons how the proposed regs will affect angling for you and the area. Don't just say "I don't like it." This was said by the DFW speakers directly. Here is the link to the page that has the online comment form to make your voice heard: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/...Simplification

    The DFW Commission, who makes the final decision on the regs, will be presented the recommendations in August.
    I do think that there are so many fishing opportunities with the current regs that it allows a little something for everyone. I didnt know we needed changes you know?

    Thanks for all the info!!!

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    Went to the meeting last night in Fresno. The changes are because there are many different seasons for trout fishing, leading to the regs being confusing for many people. Basically, too many special interest group have had their proposals implemented, creating one hot mess of a reg book.

    They idea is to simplify the seasons to: open all year, closed all year, open end of May to end of Feb, open end of May to Sept, open end of Sept to end of May. The March-end of May closure is primarily to protect spring spawning trout (goldens, rainbows, cutts). Limits and size restrictions are also proposed to simplify things.

    One thing the presenters from the DFW stressed is these changes are an idea, not set in stone and can be changed to what anglers and communities want or would like. At the Bishop meeting, the eastern Sierra community didn't like the season changes and preferred the traditional end of April through Nov 15, primarily for economic reasons (no space to sell both ski and fishing equipment at the same time), so it is possible those dates will return and be retained for that area.

    So, if you do not like something that is being proposed, make it known. Give specific reasons how the proposed regs will affect angling for you and the area. Don't just say "I don't like it." This was said by the DFW speakers directly. Here is the link to the page that has the online comment form to make your voice heard: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/...Simplification

    The DFW Commission, who makes the final decision on the regs, will be presented the recommendations in August.

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    That is one messed up state!

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    I don't thank that most California fishermen are effected by these proposed changes. Those living and fishing in Inyo, Mono, Alpine and in some places in NE California will be profoundly effected by this. Not many voters in these areas,

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrong2 View Post
    There will still be special regulations on specific waters. I think there are 20 some odd pages of special reg. waters, but I didn't read through to see any in particular. I'm assuming from other posts, some of their favorite waters which currently have special regulations aren't proposed to, but I haven't looked up any in particular.

    two of my favorite are on there. I like the current regs

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