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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    I've been in your spot. Used to have a 21' Fishrite that was my baby. Family obligations dictated that went away, but I was able to afford a 19' Bayliner (97) for $5,000. Has a 4 cylinder, but fishes fine and is reliable. Mounted an electric trolling motor on the front, downriggers on the back, and I can fish most places from Tahoe to the Bay safely. Not the fishing machine the old one was, but a reasonably affordable option, and the kids love tubing, skiing etc. There are quite a few around in that price range. Not for everybody, but more comfy than a 14' tinny with 15hp.

    Oh, and if JJB's a boat broker I'll pay a 10% finders fee for Seon's Ducky if you can convince him to sell it to me for that price....

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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    Those are all out of my budget. I found a guy selling a 14ft lund with a 2010 honda 20hp 4stroke for 2500. Gonna check it out

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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    There's a nice 07 Crestliner Sportsman SS 14' here on the Sniffer Boat Sales Classified Ads.

    Asking $7,000 OBO (maybe a little more than you want to spend).

    Says he's located in Roseville maybe you could send him a pm if interested.

    Looks like the Craigslist post has expired.

    Mike

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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    This thread has drifted somewhere else.
    Back to the beginning.
    https://modesto.craigslist.org/boa/d...889894571.html
    It's high priced, might deal at $4k

    new today
    https://reno.craigslist.org/boa/d/fe...934100022.html

    another 5 hours ago
    https://yubasutter.craigslist.org/bo...934264175.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seon View Post
    Now you're citing financing a boat.

    Don't know about you but I pay cash.

    Again, find me an '03 Ducky @ $14,600 and I'll buy it and pay cash.

    Nuff said.

    Well if you have $20-$40k cash your the few who do and you donít need to pay attention to the actual worth and just base it off of what you think is fair. But I like to know what Iím investing in and if Im getting a good deal. Apples and oranges I guess.

    And because you have a hard time finding a Duckworth at that price doesnít mean your right. Iíve watched many boats sit on Craigslist for a couple years because theyíre over priced. Iím not going to argue about this. Funding institutions base price off NADA for a reason and thatís the price I use.


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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    Quote Originally Posted by jjb View Post
    ... no banks I know of will finance boats more than 5-7 yrs old with a boat loan unless youíre willing to pay high interest fees on a short term personal loan. So youíd need a buyer with large sums of cash to buy an old boat that sellers think is worth more than it is. This is just the reality of it.


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    Now you're citing financing a boat.

    Don't know about you but I pay cash.

    Again, find me an '03 Ducky @ $14,600 and I'll buy it and pay cash.

    Nuff said.


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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    Quote Originally Posted by Seon View Post
    Just for kicks, I punched in 2003 Duckworth 22' Navigator with a Yamaha motor and NADA listed it for $14,600 retail.

    If anyone find one at that price, let me know, and I'll help you buy it.

    NADA boat prices are great if one is a buyer but realistically, most boats listed are way under priced.

    I believe NADA uses prices from what buyers that list what they paid for the boat to save DMV taxes.
    Your boat is almost at the 20 yr mark with a 20 yr old motor Iím assuming. I wouldnít pay more than $15k. Plus, no banks I know of will finance boats more than 5-7 yrs old with a boat loan unless youíre willing to pay high interest fees on a short term personal loan. So youíd need a buyer with large sums of cash to buy an old boat that sellers think is worth more than it is. This is just the reality of it.


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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    Quote Originally Posted by jjb View Post
    ...if your boat is 20 yrs old I’d think that’d be a good number regardless the additions you added to your boat. It’s like a car. The boat loses value as soon as you get it on the road from the dealer.


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    Just for kicks, I punched in 2003 Duckworth 22' Navigator with a Yamaha motor and NADA listed it for $14,600 retail.

    If anyone find one at that price, let me know, and I'll help you buy it.

    NADA boat prices are great if one is a buyer but realistically, most boats listed are way under priced.

    I believe NADA uses prices from what buyers that list what they paid for the boat to save DMV taxes.

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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    Quote Originally Posted by salmonid View Post
    NADA doesn't take into account local markets very well. Look instead what boats in your area actually sold for. CL is a good starting place, but like you said anyone can list whatever price they want.
    Yea I did that and I also priced Oregon and Washington craigslist. I found boats from the 90ís close to or priced the same as boats 5-8 yrs old. People donít know the correct value of their boats so they come up with ridiculous numbers. NADA considers your area. You have to enter in your zip code or the zip code of the area the boats is in so it factors in the worth of your boat in that area. Craigslist really isnít a good price evaluation. I recently boat a 16í Klamath Alaskan with a center console for $1800 and you couldnít find a 13í Gregor with a tiller motor for less than $2500. NADA is the way to go. Plus, the motor really determines the price or the boat.


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    Re: Thoughts on this boat- as first fishing boat

    Quote Originally Posted by jjb View Post
    If you wanna check the legit value of a boat look it up on NADA. Itís like the kelly blue book for boats. Everyone and their mother whoís privately selling boats puts up some crazy number without checking the actual value of the boat. Iíve asked some private sellers to check NADA when I was negotiating prices because if you go get a boat loan those banks use NADA for their value of the boat and they wonít give you more than itís worth. Itís a reality check for private sellers who think they can get close to what they bought it for 10-20 yrs ago.


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    NADA doesn't take into account local markets very well. Look instead what boats in your area actually sold for. CL is a good starting place, but like you said anyone can list whatever price they want.
    Here they come!

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