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brokea--boater
10-08-2012, 02:31 PM
My son Chris, joins me and some buddies for his first tuna trip Sunday. Last weeks hot bite went from smoke'n to nothing in 36 hours. We had no real intel on anyone that was finding fish on Friday and Sat. guys reporting skunks. Sunday we were going to anyway. Splashed in the bay and out the gate at greylite. Our plan was to run west of the Islands and find a temp break. We find 59-60f water but its not blue. Drop'em in and head a little more west, than north than west,,,south,,,,,,. 1:30-2:00pm we pick up a single, the radio is silent except the guys looking for bite info. We decide to troll back towards home and about 3:30 we get a 5 way. Meat line comes unbuttoned, and one breaks off, 3 fish added to the box. My son Chris gets a taste of the high action that comes with that 5 way and is now infected with tuna chasing. There was a late pm bite on the inside. I think we and most others over ran the fish looking for tuna water, the inside water was more green than blue. Here's some fish porn.http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh550/brokeassboater/P1010035_zps8bd5b927.jpghttp://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh550/brokeassboater/P1010037_zps84bea7a8.jpghttp://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh550/brokeassboater/P1010040_zps2fdf5672.jpghttp://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh550/brokeassboater/P1010043_zps62918bd5.jpg

untalan1
10-09-2012, 06:47 AM
Went out on sat from HMB on FAC seas and fished the 32/31 line.Made a rock cod stop at the islands first for limits of cod before heading to the numbers.Didn't hear of any big flurries but did end the day with 14, mostly peanuts but a few in the 20# class.Efren

Fishbutt21
10-10-2012, 08:12 AM
Went out on sat from HMB on FAC seas and fished the 32/31 line.Made a rock cod stop at the islands first for limits of cod before heading to the numbers.Didn't hear of any big flurries but did end the day with 14, mostly peanuts but a few in the 20# class.Efren

Just a heads up but if you are fishing deeper then allowed for rockfish or with more then one rod per person with rockfish on board while tuna fishing that can end in a big citation for you.
and congrats on finding the tuna :-)

brokea--boater
10-10-2012, 03:36 PM
Just a heads up but if you are fishing deeper then allowed for rockfish or with more then one rod per person with rockfish on board while tuna fishing that can end in a big citation for you.
and congrats on finding the tuna :-)

?? Im not sure what you say'n

bassman408
10-10-2012, 04:11 PM
?? Im not sure what you say'n

I believe he's talking about the rockfish regulations that state you can only fish with 1 line with no more than 2 hooks at a time. So once you have a rockfish on board, you can only continue to fish with 1 rod. I am sure you already know this and I am in no way trying to educate you, just trying to clear up what the other poster said.

I've never been tuna fishing, but judging by pictures posted by people, boats typically troll multiple rods, so I think he was talking about that point. If you guys had rockfish on board, and you guys were trolling using more than 1 rod per person on board, then it might be an issue. Thats how I interpreted his post.

In any case, way to go getting on the fish and thanks for sharing your trip with us.

brokea--boater
10-10-2012, 04:41 PM
I was looking for a specific section that I might read in the regs. I never researched it because its so common for guys to hit both species in one trip. One rod per angler fishing for rock fish vs spare rods on the boat not deployed. Or rock cod in the box from a stop on the way out, than trolling for tuna @7 knts. with surface lures over 6000 ft of water with only 300yrd of line spooled on the reels. Two different fish, habitat, fishing metheds. Im really not trying to be a jacka__ just trying to get some clearity. We can fish Salmon and Rock fish on the same trip with a small adjustment in tackle.

bassman408
10-10-2012, 05:11 PM
I was looking for a specific section that I might read in the regs. I never researched it because its so common for guys to hit both species in one trip. One rod per angler fishing for rock fish vs spare rods on the boat not deployed. Or rock cod in the box from a stop on the way out, than trolling for tuna @7 knts. with surface lures over 6000 ft of water with only 300yrd of line spooled on the reels. Two different fish, habitat, fishing metheds. Im really not trying to be a jacka__ just trying to get some clearity. We can fish Salmon and Rock fish on the same trip with a small adjustment in tackle.

You can fish as many species of fish on the same trip as long as you follow the regulations. For example, the salmon/rock fish citations are what I've more commonly heard about this year with so many people going out for salmon. I'll explain a few scenarios you might run into.

1) Lets say you're fishing for salmon using single barbless hook and land your first salmon and decide to keep it. From this point on, you can ONLY fish with a single barbless hook and doesn't matter what species you catch as long you continue to use a single barbless hook.

2) Lets say you're fishing for rockfish using 2 hooks and hook a salmon. According to DFG, you're supposed to release the fish as it was not caught according to regulation, but I know some may keep them. At this point, lets say you decide to keep the salmon. You will need to change your setup to a single barbless hook.

Basically, if you're trying to fish for rockfish and salmon, it would be in your best interest to fish for rockfish first and then salmon, so you won't be limited to using the single barbless hook.

The issue mentioned earlier about using single rod is similarly applied to white sea bass fishing. You can deploy as many rods as you can handle on your boat for white sea bass. Lets say you hook a lingcod or rockfish and decide to keep it, then you will only be allowed to use one rod for white sea bass fishing since you have a ling/rockfish on board.

Hope this helps. I think it would be a good idea to read further into the regulations. Those citations can get pretty hefty for an "uh oh" that can be avoided.

brokea--boater
10-11-2012, 06:19 AM
The salmon/rock combo is pretty straight forward, I was was wondering about the OP part of only one rod per angler "on the boat" when rock fishing or a rock fish in the box, never heard this before. My crew that I fish with are pretty well informed and stay within these over reaching regs that Cal. has adopted.
Maybe I missed read that part, as always bringing out for conversation is good.

bassman408
10-11-2012, 08:42 AM
Yea...its a good thing that someone had brought it up to save you the potential headache in the future.

Next time, just hit the rockfish on the way back and there shouldn't be any issues, otherwise, just make sure to stick to 1 rod per angler if you decide to catch rockfish first then tuna.

Tight lines!

untalan1
10-13-2012, 11:19 AM
Hi guys, didn't mean to hijack broke-boater thread,was just posting my day on the water and how good day of fishing it was.We caught our limits of rockfish first and went tuna fishing after.We only fish the number of rods for tuna for the people fishing on the boat which is usually about 5 guys especially with the price of gas.Good information. Thanks Efren

Fishbutt21
10-13-2012, 08:49 PM
BassMan is right on the rockfish regs
If you have rockfish on the boat then your fishing for the reminder of the trip must be in less then the max depth allowed for rockfish. fishing deeper water is a ticket.No excuses
Part of my frustration with the rules is I have caught limits of 15 rock cod and filled the coolers with albies in the same place out at cordell bank 15-18yrs ago when cordell was open and we did not have any depth limits.Now we have what we have.As far as rods go you can fish any number of lines as long as there is NO salmon or rockfish on board your boat. after rock cod or salmon then its One rod per person.For me I fish 6 rods for tuna,4 rods for halibut and then down to one for salmon and cod
Sorry for any past confusion and any warden will be happy to read you the regs in queston

brokea--boater
10-14-2012, 07:50 AM
Good work Efren, I had family obligations this weekend and missed the WFO bite happened yesterday. With the current price of fuel a five man crew helps with the cost thats for sure, though most boats are going to be cramped. Our trip last week cost $450.00 for the day. Fuel for truck/boat, bridge toll, ice and launch fee. That doesn't even include beer and food.

macklb
11-03-2012, 08:05 PM
Just to let you guys know, the wardens will give tickets on any suspicion of illegal activity and then you've lost the game, even if you win in court (days off without pay, etc.) I caught some nice rockfish one day out of Bodega, then switched all gear to barbless to go for salmon. We were boarded by Fish and Game. He said "you know you must use barbless gear for rockfish if you are salmon fishing". I said "I know if I have a salmon on board, I must use barbless hooks for rockfish". He replied, "we are interpreting that as if you are going to be going salmon fishing that day, you must have barbless hooks to catch rockfish". (I still had no salmon on board) I replied " well it's a darned good thing that I used barbless hooks to catch my rockfish then, isn't it?" He was upset that he couldn't give me a ticket because all of our gear was rigged with barbless hooks. I think this demonstrates that some wardens will stretch the law to give tickets. (I have great respect for most of them) My point is, don't do anything that may appear as if you are breaking the law. The tickets are terribly expensive.