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easymoneyadam
07-29-2005, 05:51 PM
Hey all,

I'm looking into what kind of rig would work good for sharks (leopard, thresher, etc.) I've heard of guys using some fairly big hooks to sturgeon rigs to catch a shark. I've seen several threads, all of them informative about sharking. In the past weekend (7/23/05) I picked up a ton of dog sharks that kept biting my rock cod rigs. I'm looking for any input I can get from fellow contributurs on this forum. Many thanks in advance to all.

drift
07-29-2005, 06:07 PM
*I always use sliding sinker rigs with a squid strip when fishing for sharks and rays. Works great. Your hooks don't need to be too big, unless your fishing for 7 gill sharks or soupfins, which are much bigger than the leaperd sharks.

chingolingy
07-29-2005, 07:16 PM
For sharks- I'd reccomend a 3-4 foot steel leader with a single sturdy ocean hook in the 5/0 to 10/0 range depending on what type of bait. For bait, my first choice would be a whole small mackeral hooked above the tail or a bunch of squids. ;)p.s. sliding sinker above the leader.

mike22ca
07-29-2005, 07:41 PM
Midshipmen are supposed to be the ticket for sharks

easymoneyadam
07-29-2005, 07:55 PM
Thanks for the quick replies all, I hope to continue hearing back from more rod and reelers out there. mike22ca I'm a little short on midshipmen but don't you think squid will work too?

pulseczar
07-29-2005, 08:49 PM
Is there any place to get midshipmen or how do I catch them?

MB_Kevin
07-29-2005, 10:42 PM
squid on the bottom. cant fail as far as I'm concerned.

marnilr
07-29-2005, 11:07 PM
Is there any place to get midshipmen or how do I catch them?

Head out to Tomales during a minus tide (only in the summer) and flip over rocks, reach down and pick them up... although I have never had any luck with them personally. *

mafuti
07-30-2005, 06:55 AM
Squid-sicles shove an anchovie or herring into a sqid works great!!!

wayneo
07-30-2005, 07:02 AM
Big fillet of king fish

MB_Kevin
07-30-2005, 10:34 PM
Panfish Popper got one today on store bought raw shrimp. ;)

pulseczar
07-30-2005, 11:14 PM
what kinda shark?

MB_Kevin
07-30-2005, 11:33 PM
leopard it was small but only stayed maybe an hour and got a sting ray and a shark.

GooseCA
07-31-2005, 01:31 PM
I find the best bait to use the midshipman. Rays won't touch them and you will get only sharks. Leopard shark when I fish by the Pacbell Park.

wading2fish
07-31-2005, 01:58 PM
Hey Goose,

Do you catch your midshipman at Pacbell park? I have caught them at Tomales Bay before, but never thought of looking for them down by Pacbell and Candlestick. To keep this thread from being further hijacked and turned into a bait thread only, I'll contribute my sharking rigs. I have caught sharks on sliding sinker rigs, surf style homemade rigs, and even sturgeon rigs.

wading2fish
07-31-2005, 03:10 PM
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1549/dsc000632pk.jpg

This is the rig I most often use when fishing the Bay or even when baithishing the surf. I tie these myself with 50lb mono and use only Gami octopus hooks. I attach the hooks directly to the dropper loops. This does two things:
1. It completely prevents gut-hooking a fish
2. It prevents the hook and bait from tangling around the main leader line.

I have caught different species of fish on this rig, including shark. I also have used it up in the Delta for cats, and hopefully one day I will catch a striper with it up there, but not yet. >:( For bait, sharks will hit almost anything, I have caught them on squid, chovies, sardines, live bullheads, and shrimp.(Sorry about messing up the format with the big pic, I'm still working on resizing my pics)

easymoneyadam
07-31-2005, 03:23 PM
wading, thanks for the pic of your homemade rig, I'll have to give that a shot to see if I can't pick up a nice little leopard or ray on it. thanks for the tip

wading2fish
07-31-2005, 04:50 PM
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1089/dsc000634sz.jpg

Just testing to see if I figured out how to resize my pics. Looks like it worked.

Fishbutt21
07-31-2005, 04:58 PM
If you want to catch big sharks in the bay you will need wire leader 100 lb min. and as high as maybe 180-200 lb and salmon bellys for bait,one lb slider for weight and deep water. open ocean shark fishing use the same rig with 8oz and drift

wading2fish
07-31-2005, 05:03 PM
That's a great rig setup, IF you have a boat. Unfortunately, I don't have one, yet.

easymoneyadam
07-31-2005, 05:37 PM
fishbut that sounds like a rig to tryout, both you and wader have had some interesting suggestions. I'm also with wader on the fact of not having a boat. I do currently rent a boat once in a while out of Santa Cruz or Capitola. I haven't really looked in to fishing or boating the bay waters (seems windy and choppy all the time to me) keep the suggestions coming. I'll be trying out Santa Cruz or Capitola again in the near future.

pulseczar
07-31-2005, 06:08 PM
If you live in San Jose or near it, you could go to Fishery Supply and they have these wonderful pretied metal 3way rigs that keep straight and won't twist or anything. All you have to do is attach some previously snelled hooks onto it, do the whole attach sinker and bait thing and then you're ready to go.

Sorry no pictures, but if anybody knows what I'm talking about and can provide pictures, I think that'd be a nice visual aid.

MB_Kevin
07-31-2005, 09:46 PM
I landed that ray off the rocks with 15 pound test. no problem. I dont use a leader just tie a wait on the bottom 3oz or more and two hooks above. in the bay is there a law on how close your hook can be to the wait ??? I tye mine about 6 inches up but now after reading some other posts I dont know if that is leagle but even 18 inches up would work and never had anyone say its not ok.

striper_assasin
09-02-2005, 01:40 PM
And what do you guys use to remove the hooks without having your fingers munched on?

Rock_Hopper
09-02-2005, 01:48 PM
Your fingers or needle nose pliers.

Most sharks that we catch from shore have very small teeth. The only sharks we need to worry about are 7-gills, soupfin, and angel sharks. Mostly 7-gills as large soupfins and angel sharks are fairly rare from shore.

Skates also have some big @ss teeth.

striper_assasin
09-02-2005, 02:18 PM
thanks rock_hopper.whats a skate?

wading2fish
09-02-2005, 03:54 PM
A weird looking animal, it looks like a cross between a shark and a ray. I think it is a species of it's own.

w2f

MoMoney
09-03-2005, 06:59 PM
i have used frozen midshipmen I got from berkeley marina store i think it was 5 dollars for 3 frozen ones.they are very durable and can catch several sharks.I have been doing well with butterflied herring lately.Only use store bought sturgeon leaders.I like the 2 hooks as it keeps a large bait on well and dont have to worry about fray in the mono.But the 2 hooks are hard sometimes to remove and on a ray very difficult.But i still have my ten fingers

fence_man
09-03-2005, 07:20 PM
go barbless the hook will come out easy a pair of lineman pliers . grab the shank and flip it out. Fished last sunday at tomales caught 15 big female lep and 1 small male led 44". great day !!

GCinGV
09-05-2005, 06:39 AM
Here’s a good link for Shark fishing gear.
http://www.newenglandsharks.com/shark2.htm
GC