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The_Pond_King
01-27-2014, 10:33 PM
I know the answer is probably more than likely a resounding "no"; however, I have reason to believe that fishing may be allowed at Niles Canyon. I have done my research online and have found conflicting information. Some sources say you can fish it, while others say you cannot. Perhaps, the surefire way would be to call the DFW and find out for sure. Here is what I found:


Sources that say fishing is allowed:
http://swmcdn.com/site_0454/alameda_creek_map.pdf
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Alameda Creek Trail - Southside East from I880 to Niles Canyon (http://baytrail.abag.ca.gov/vtour/map4/access/AlamedaCrk_E/AlamedaSE.htm)
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The Western Angler:
Fly Fishing for Rainbow Trout in Niles Canyon the the Western Angler - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGWTkRqcZg0)


Sources that give me reason to believe that fishing is NOT allowed:
2-year fishing ban to save Alameda Creek trout - SFGate (http://www.sfgate.com/green/article/2-year-fishing-ban-to-save-Alameda-Creek-trout-3272848.php#photo-2422332)


Go Fish! Places to fish in Alameda, Contra Costa and Santa Clara counties (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fishinginthecity/sf/gofish-southeast.html)
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Types of fish in Niles Canyon/Upper Alameda Creek:
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...and of course they got steelhead and salmon, or at least they used to, but I'm not trying to target endangered species. I just want to see if fishing is allowed for planter trout and largemout/smallmouth bass.


Whatever glimmering hope I have of fishing there would be nice because it's essentially my backyard. How sad that dams destroyed the thriving steelhead and coho salmon populations. Heard people used to slay steelhead and salmon up until the 60's or so. Imagine that! I'm so bummed because we'd have large populations of salmon and steelhead available to fish for locally all over the Bay Area.

CRABBY
01-28-2014, 04:30 AM
Used to fish an camp there in 63.Back then it was an easy ride on my bike from centerville.
As far as the fish went they were there but niles creek was so dirty my parents wouldn't let me bring em home.
We stayed at a small camp ground called "The Spot".They had a small diversion dam there.I can't imagine with all the development in that area it's improved much!!Your links contradict each other,call dfg as you need to be sure!:biggrin:

Jetspray
01-28-2014, 05:24 AM
So Don you hung out at the biker bar? The Spot was at times a rough place to be. I used to walk the
"hidden sidewalk too" it was all great fun.....Jetspray

sollimes
01-28-2014, 06:55 AM
Used to be able to fish the creek back in late 70's and early 80's.
Yeah the secret sidewalk was the spot, we used to camp and fish there. Lots of sucker fish...lol
Just keep your eyes peeled at night and you might see a young lady with a white dress.

quadll
01-28-2014, 07:17 AM
The current regs state no fishing at all in alameda creek, been that way for the past two years.


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BigUnInDaBoat
01-28-2014, 09:14 AM
The current regs state no fishing at all in alameda creek, been that way for the past two years.


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I think a very small portion of the creek is barbless C&R only.


(1.5) Alameda Creek and tributaries (Alameda and Santa Clara cos.).
(A) Alameda Creek and tributaries downstream of San Antonio, Calaveras, and Del Valle Reservoirs except for Arroyo Del Valle between Bernal Ave. and the Thiessen St. intersection with Vineyard Ave.
Closed to all fishing all year.
1. Arroyo Del Valle between Bernal Ave. and the Thiessen St. intersection with Vineyard Ave.
All year. Only artificial lures with Barbless hooks. Catch and release only.

PinkSalmon
01-28-2014, 11:56 AM
Used to be able to fish the creek back in late 70's and early 80's.
Yeah the secret sidewalk was the spot, we used to camp and fish there. Lots of sucker fish...lol
Just keep your eyes peeled at night and you might see a young lady with a white dress.


i remember about that lady in the white dress when i was living in the bay area. we used to cruise niles late night in hs looking for her. good times.

fishingfrieda
01-28-2014, 01:19 PM
Whats the story with the lady in the white dress? :what:

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bassn916
01-28-2014, 06:53 PM
Whats the story with the lady in the white dress? :what:

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Lol I use to live off of Mowry and fished the ponds near Niles quite a bit before the stripers were fished out of Shinns pond. I heard about the white witch.. do tell :)

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The_Pond_King
01-28-2014, 09:01 PM
Wow cool story CRABBY!

Seems like this place strikes a chord in a lot of members here. Anyway, I love the fishing stories old timers tell about how the areas I fish or live around used to be. Man, I kinda wish I was born in the way back when just to experience some of the stellar fishing you guys had available back then.

Yeah.. regarding Niles, I'm not really in it to catch fish as much as I am wanting to be there for the ambience and the area is just really scenic. I just want to go there and suppose what it would have been like back in the days. I know it's not a great spot or anything now, but to have a tributary spot that looks like your deep in the woods in the middle of a suburban city is just way too cool. After hearing of all the stories from back in the days of how it used to be killer for steelhead and salmon I just want to go there for the hell of it. I know I'm probably not gonna catch anything.

Well.. according to the regs below, some areas are open to fish. I'm going to check this out one day for sure! The regs didn't say anything about trebles, so I'll just crimp down my barbs on my kastmasters and roostertails. If anyone is interested in joining feel free to message me. Who knows there's an outside chance that you could hook up with steelhead or salmon... not that I'd want to because they are endangered in this area and I wouldn't want to damage them in any way, but it'd be pretty cool nonetheless to hook up with one haha.
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FishnBeer
01-28-2014, 09:15 PM
Two years ago we fished that creek further upstream near downtown pleasanton. Lots of bluegill, some decent 3 lb bass and big carp cruising around. Keep going a little further upstream and you hit shadow cliffs.

PinkSalmon
01-29-2014, 12:26 AM
Whats the story with the lady in the white dress? :what:

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if i remember correctly-she died tragically along that road on her wedding day (hence the white dress). legend has it that you can see her walking along niles rd...if you do see her don't stop and offer her a ride!! i've been told one fella did offer this distraught lady in white home, knocked on the door of her house, and was told by the current resident that she had died some years back. upon returning to his truck she had vanished...poof.....:o)...good camping story.

being in hs and barely driving, we loved that dark road, it was a treat to cruise, especially late night under a full moon.

i fished once or twice on a creek near there. caught a sucker fish on a rooster tail. i did see one fella fly fishing. this was back in the late 80's, early 90's.

CMP
03-09-2014, 02:19 AM
I always wondered about fishing there..actually I jog a 15K every morning from my house down the bike trail along Alameda Creek and have always seen the no fishing signs. In the summer months you can see loads of fish<kind of look like carp> in the creek..along with turtles and an occasional snake. For some reason I thought they were building salmon ladders down there or something for fish in the creek on the Mission Blvd side, but I have not heard or seen any new developments....:shocked:

Jetspray
03-09-2014, 04:28 AM
I always wondered about fishing there..actually I jog a 15K every morning from my house down the bike trail along Alameda Creek and have always seen the no fishing signs. In the summer months you can see loads of fish<kind of look like carp> in the creek..along with turtles and an occasional snake. For some reason I thought they were building salmon ladders down there or something for fish in the creek on the Mission Blvd side, but I have not heard or seen any new developments....:shocked: I have seen Mountain Lions in the creek bed west of the freeway overpass. They were looking for stray cats or dogs for dinner. Be careful out there. I have seen steelhead in that creek too, when the rubber dams are deflated.......Jetspray