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bretmoua
08-04-2014, 11:00 AM
Good luck to everyone who will be out next Saturday. Hope a few of us will be lucky enough to score a buck or two. Can't wait to start seeing the horn porn again.

Reel Fun
08-06-2014, 06:41 AM
I am going to be hunting a private piece along the Cosumnes river in Elk Grove. Last year I saw about 20 bobcats there! The quail & turkeys are few and far between because of it. I did get to see a bobcat hunt and pounce on a cubby of quail from my tree stand last year though. Only seen 2 in all my years hunting in D4 and now 5 miles from home I see a bunch? Place is over run with them. Bucks are also scarce......rumor has it the farm workers snipe them pre dawn from their tractors with 22's? If I don't tag out I will be taking my climbing stand up to the Omo Ranch area.


I just bought a Prime Alloy bow last year and love it! Only 3rd year bow hunting and I feel 100% confident out to 60 yards with it. If you are buying a bow I highly recommend looking at them! They are very different than all other bows on the market with 2 cams on each limb.

BigUnInDaBoat
08-06-2014, 08:46 AM
Counting down but havent seen much besides spikes and does on my trial camera.

aka Americansteel
08-06-2014, 11:47 AM
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Hoping to take the wind out of this guy. I've been watching him grow since April

K-15
08-06-2014, 08:53 PM
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Hoping to take the wind out of this guy. I've been watching him grow since April

Good luck to a close shot, and a short blood trail. Mike

bretmoua
08-06-2014, 08:58 PM
22518

Hoping to take the wind out of this guy. I've been watching him grow since April

That's a nice buck in velvet still. I hope you nail him on opening morning.

bretmoua
08-06-2014, 09:00 PM
Counting down but havent seen much besides spikes and does on my trial camera.

Seeing spikes ain't bad. If I were you, I would continue to monitor that trail and when the timing is right, a legal buck may just cone through.

bretmoua
08-06-2014, 09:04 PM
I am going to be hunting a private piece along the Cosumnes river in Elk Grove. Last year I saw about 20 bobcats there! The quail & turkeys are few and far between because of it. I did get to see a bobcat hunt and pounce on a cubby of quail from my tree stand last year though. Only seen 2 in all my years hunting in D4 and now 5 miles from home I see a bunch? Place is over run with them. Bucks are also scarce......rumor has it the farm workers snipe them pre dawn from their tractors with 22's? If I don't tag out I will be taking my climbing stand up to the Omo Ranch area.


I just bought a Prime Alloy bow last year and love it! Only 3rd year bow hunting and I feel 100% confident out to 60 yards with it. If you are buying a bow I highly recommend looking at them! They are very different than all other bows on the market with 2 cams on each limb.

That'll suck if farmers were doing that. But on the bright side, permission to hunt a private property is super awesome. Most people spend many years hoping to get ranchers permission to hunt on private land but never do. Just think of it as a second place to hunt if you are not successful on public land.

PapaGreg
08-07-2014, 07:31 AM
Not seeing many legal bucks where I am in D-5, except for the ones on private property that are either being fed or are feasting on apples and alfalfa. Has anyone else noticed the de-formed horns on the bucks? Last year and this year I have seen "weird" horns, like 3 point on one side and the other side is 5-6 inches high and all twisted up like a root ball? Wondering if it's a result of foraging in illegal pot grows and ingesting certain chemicals?

Reelfun, I'm thinking the drought is driving those bob-cats down that way. A friend was out walking her dog near Lake Tabeau and saw a BIG bob-cat pawing a huge rattlesnake, she said as the battle went on, she heard more snakes and figured the cat had gotten into a den.

The youngest daughter lives in Pioneer and was greeted by a bear Wedensday morning when she was leaving for work at 7am.

Grncrestliner
08-07-2014, 07:58 PM
My plan is to set up camp Thursday afternoon and then spend Friday looking around. I will have either 1 or 2 other hunters joining me late Friday. I may stay till Monday afternoon but the other guys have to go back to work.
John

Reel Fun
08-09-2014, 03:00 PM
Not seeing many legal bucks where I am in D-5, except for the ones on private property that are either being fed or are feasting on apples and alfalfa. Has anyone else noticed the de-formed horns on the bucks? Last year and this year I have seen "weird" horns, like 3 point on one side and the other side is 5-6 inches high and all twisted up like a root ball? Wondering if it's a result of foraging in illegal pot grows and ingesting certain chemicals?

Reelfun, I'm thinking the drought is driving those bob-cats down that way. A friend was out walking her dog near Lake Tabeau and saw a BIG bob-cat pawing a huge rattlesnake, she said as the battle went on, she heard more snakes and figured the cat had gotten into a den.

The youngest daughter lives in Pioneer and was greeted by a bear Wedensday morning when she was leaving for work at 7am.



My uncle lives in Jackson off Clinton rd near Tabeau lake and his son (my cousin) lives in Pioneer. Both see huge deer almost daily! I saw DFW reduced the D6 tags due to the Rimfire. I bet that area will sell out and be pretty good hunting?

PapaGreg
08-10-2014, 04:56 PM
Yeah, I fish Tabeau occassionally, see bucks often, but that's all mostly private property.

PapaGreg
08-10-2014, 05:00 PM
Reelfun, daughter's camera catches BIG bucks at all hours of the day, along with bears, mountain lions, foxes, coyotes, etc., but like I said, PRIVATE PROPERTY!!!!!!

bretmoua
08-10-2014, 05:50 PM
Unfortunately, private property is where most of the big game animals are. Plenty of food to eat with very little to no hunting pressure is where all the smart ones are. Sometimes that's where they get fed the good food as well.....just ask the crazy deer lady LOL

bretmoua
08-10-2014, 05:52 PM
Just found out that I was able to get that day off work so I'll be up in D7 scouting on Friday then hoping to let an arrow fly Saturday morning. Best of luck to everyone again.

HMONG_James_Vang
08-10-2014, 06:45 PM
Just found out that I was able to get that day off work so I'll be up in D7 scouting on Friday then hoping to let an arrow fly Saturday morning. Best of luck to everyone again.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

outdoordude
08-11-2014, 03:52 PM
We're ready...have to go to a wedding on sat but bright and early sun...I'll do my scouting with bow in hand, good luck to all. Doug

outdoordude
08-12-2014, 05:22 PM
Scouted this afternoon, went to my area, didn't want to go too deep, saw a spike and doe 1mi apart, another mi we parked and walked, found a pair of buck tracks traveling together, all signs are good for bucks in the area.

Reel Fun
08-16-2014, 08:34 PM
A guy with us missed a 3x3 at 30 yrds! Said it jumped the string but it was already scared because it saw a couple of other hunters. We went to the Omo Ranch area and we were done hunting at 830 as it was already 80 degrees! Going back tomorrow morning for a couple hours. They are there that's for sure! Trailcams are getting 5 bucks in the area!

BigUnInDaBoat
08-16-2014, 09:58 PM
I'm in d6 this time last year the rimfire started, but we had water. This year the creek on my property is dry. Seen lots of does and one spike on the trail came the last month...however most of the does have twins.

I hunted today and bumped does and a spike at 4k. It was too warm. Buddys busted two deer couldn't tell what they were and almost had a chance at a big bear. They stayed and camped there, hope they get that brute.

Reel Fun
08-17-2014, 12:24 PM
Nothing today. The ones we say yesterday have already gone into the the witness protection program

bretmoua
08-17-2014, 03:45 PM
nothing today. The ones we say yesterday have already gone into the the witness protection program

lol lol lol

bretmoua
08-17-2014, 03:47 PM
A Buck with no Blood???

Did a solo hunt on Saturday and ran across two bucks next to each other around noon, after walking all morning through 3 different spots. Closest one was a spike and only 22 yards away while the nice and tall forked was 45 yards away. So I drew my bow and used my 50 yard pin and away my arrow went. Rats, shot was off a little behind and got him between the ribs and hind quarter. Saw the buck ran off 30 yards behind some bush and didn't see him go any further. Since it was lunch time, I went to have my lunch and 30 minutes later, I was making my quiet way to retrieve my buck. Slowly inching closer to the spot I last saw him, the buck spots me looked at me. I quickly ranged him again at 31 yards and was making my way to draw my arrow for a second shot but the darn thing took off, with my arrow still attached to him, faster then a speeding bullet. So thinking I'll give him another 30 minutes to bleed to death, I sat there thinking negatively about my slim chances of retrieving my buck. So 30 minutes gone by and I start to make my way to the last spot I saw him run off too. Searched far and wide, high and low for 2 hours and could not find my buck. After being exhausted and frustrated, not to mentioned a little upset, I decided to call off the search. Made my way back to the first spot I let him rest so I can go have lunch and to my surprise, there was not a single drop of blood anywhere. How can that be? How can there be no blood loss at all? Did I use the right range pin at 50 yards or should I have used my 40 yards pin? Did I give him enough time to bleed to death the first time, while I had lunch, or should I have given him more time? Any pointers would be appreciated for knowledge. What should I have done differently?
I still can't believe the opportunity that I had and really wished I could have sealed the deal because it would have been my first buck ever after the start of my fourth season bow hunting. I was really bummed that night and had to drink two bottles of beers just to try to forget about the mishap earlier that day. Oh and I ended the day seeing 7 does, a fawn by itself, and two bucks.

QueenAnnesRevenge
08-17-2014, 03:59 PM
A couple of things
If your unsure what pin to use its too far for you to shoot
If you know where the buck went, try and recover the arrow first it will give you some clues about where you hit.
The lack of blood trail is likely due to the arrow still being in and being in some meat not vitals
30 minutes after a poor shot is too little time to wait, especially with no blood trail.
If they weren't spooked just wait and watch until the shooter buck is closer and offering a better shot(quartering away perhaps)
As the song goes "waiting is the hardest part"

bretmoua
08-17-2014, 04:14 PM
Queens....you are definitely right......waiting was hard and I could hardly swallow my lunch as I waited. Being the first buck I have connected with an arrow, you can only imagine how I felt counting down the seconds to retrieve my buck.....

Grncrestliner
08-19-2014, 10:17 AM
Bret I think you got some good response on the other forum. Some of those were a little harsh and I decided not to get into it over there. Stuff happens and when it does you make your own decisions regarding ethics and how to handle the situation. I think you know now that you need to wait a lot longer than you did. A perfectly hit animal will not go far and you would have had no trouble recovering it but an animal hit too far back should be given more time. You may not have recovered it even if you waited 8 hours but you will never know. I have waited 6 hours before when a buddy hit one too far back. We found it so it worked out.
John

Phish Addiction
08-19-2014, 11:20 AM
Unless I see the buck go down and I know it is dead I give it at least an hour. Even if I think I made a perfect hit and have good blood I'd rather back out and wait.

I've tracked a buck over 4 miles with tons of blood and jumped it multiple times to never put my hands on it. Deer are very resilient. To make sure you arrow works you need to let them lay down and bleed out. If you push them their adrenaline can make them go for miles even if mortally wounded.

DRF
08-19-2014, 12:05 PM
Did you tune your bow to your broadheads? Did you spin check them and line them all up excatly the same? These are very crucial steps before you shoot at a deer. If you can, papper tune your bow with your broadheads last. Once its tuned go out to the range and practice. Your best bet would be to make up a dozen arrows with broadheads and leave them once they are tuned and spun. Make them your hunting arrows only. Number them so you know what ones fly the best and what ones need more tuning.

Tuning Broadheads to arrows: http://youtu.be/PDKtMQ0U3Rg

It sorta sounds like you maybe hit it in the guts. No blood and no arrow far back means your deer took a day to die and it could go for miles. Did it hump up when you hit it?
If you go back look for your arrow. Then the last place you seen the deer, take a good dog and you just might find your deer. The meat may not be any good but at least you can tag it and retrieve your bone.
Take this for what it's worth.

Do not use broadheads straight out of the package to kill or hunt anything. Learn to sharpen them once they are tuned/spun to the arrow. If you can't put a good edge on it after you've tuned your bow to your broadheads by shooting them, it's a junk broadhead in my book. Start over with a new broadhead that allows you to do this crucial step without removing the broadhead from the shaft. I'm a huge fan of the Muzzy or a one piece Zwicky black diamond with the bleeder blade.

Sucks you lost your deer, now let see how good of a tracker you are. It's part of the game brother. Take a bottle of peroxide with you if you do go. Any thing that looks like blood just give it a squirt, it'll foam up..

Good luck.

BigUnInDaBoat
08-19-2014, 05:44 PM
Last year was my first year bowhunting/deer hunting. I started with Muzzys and had a helluva time getting them to fly straight. I then launched one at a tall 2X3 saw him buck, run about 80 yards stop, turned and looked at me and barked like hoarse dog. never found my arrow, never found any blood spent 8+ hours looking.

I switched up to a Rage 3 blade and will never use anything else, on Oct, 13 of last year I took my buck, a big ole 6X5. I hit him at about 30-35 yards double lung, he did not get 60 yards away before he fell over dead as a doornail. Stevie Wonder could of followed that blood trail, it was graphic, so was the monster entry hole.

I am all about practice (I shoot daily, have a 20-80 yard range in my backyard). But when you are looking down the sights at a buck, we all know it's easier said then done to keep it together.

Don't let it get you down, get back out there and at it.

Reel Fun
08-19-2014, 05:55 PM
Just look for the buzzards now. Without any lung they take a long time to die.

bretmoua
08-19-2014, 06:34 PM
Thanks for the knowledge everyone. I'll be back out all day Friday hunting in the same area and looking for the buck or my arrow as well. Will report back afterwards. Good luck to everyone and may a lot of us fill our tag this year.

BigUnInDaBoat
08-20-2014, 09:18 AM
Thanks for the knowledge everyone. I'll be back out all day Friday hunting in the same area and looking for the buck or my arrow as well. Will report back afterwards. Good luck to everyone and may a lot of us fill our tag this year.

Hope you find him or a clean arrow bro.

K-15
08-21-2014, 04:32 AM
The worst thing a guy can do is approach a weak hit animal too soon.When in doubt of your hit, back out quietly and give the animal time to expire.After the shot, stare at the last place you saw the animal, and lock it in your mind, flag the spot you shot from, if not your tree stand, to return to later.The deer will typically spook/run a ways after the hit, and watch their back trail for danger, if no threat is seen or heard/smelled the deer generally will bed quickly feeling ill. You can just about bet he will bed with in 200 yds. of the impact site, if un-disturbed. If you walk up and start trailing to soon, the deer can cover miles.
The fact is if you bow hunt enough, your going to get a weak hit animal, having the patience to back out will make the difference on a recovered animal.Unlike rifle hunting, a archer is working strictly with hemorrhaging, some times it takes time. Like said 6 -8 hrs. on a paunch hit animal should be enough. Some lessons in life come with a price, lets try to respect the resource and all have a good season.I'm guessing if you keep your eye out for birds, and your nose to the wind, you might find the carcass.
Mike