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dsa2780
01-02-2015, 08:56 PM
If I'm not catching fish, I usually walk around and take photos of little things in nature I find interesting. Found this guy today frozen in the shallows.

The tail and eyes tell me American shad, but could be a pond smelt or something washed over from Natoma/Folsom?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10801614_805874822792966_2592338464007337611_n.jpg ?oh=5d4c70b4083ca1c17d503ec09bff8333&oe=553C1BAD&__gda__=1430070293_b0bc56049ae0c122bb516867230d430 c



It was 28 degrees this morning! Be careful rock hopping for the safety of your skulls and gear.


https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10410578_805875019459613_4226691015578071325_n.jpg ?oh=53da4ab35cdfe1278d9f8a653387507b&oe=552B0C87

mchrisk72
01-02-2015, 09:55 PM
Cool pictures!

salmonid
01-02-2015, 09:59 PM
My guess is an "ice fish" (Wakasagi).

Waiting for some pics to upload.

monkey916
01-02-2015, 10:07 PM
Here's Sal's Wakasagi fish...

Fish Species by Location - California Fish Website (http://calfish.ucdavis.edu/location/?uid=175&ds=698)

salmonid
01-02-2015, 10:11 PM
Seems like no spots and kinda skinny to be an american shad, perhaps it is just hungry though? Also your fish seems like it may have an adipose fin? But Shad do not.

American shad:
http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/members/salmonid/albums/pic-help-3/25035-shad.jpg

There is a smelt from Japan that 'we' introduced here called ice fish or wakasagi.
http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/members/salmonid/albums/pic-help-3/25036-waka-pic.jpg

It's in folsom and the delta:
http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/members/salmonid/albums/pic-help-3/25037-waka-dist.jpg

It also looks similar to our native delta smelt. If so, RIP to another one of the endangered fish! Not sure if they would be up in the river though?
http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/members/salmonid/albums/pic-help-3/25038-delta-smelt.jpg

Pics and text are from:
http://www.fishsniffer.com/forums/members/salmonid/albums/pic-help-3/25039-moyle.jpg

monkey916
01-02-2015, 10:14 PM
dsa's fish has a big striper mouth tho..?

salmonid
01-02-2015, 10:17 PM
dsa's fish has a big striper mouth tho..?

Probably the others listed here would as well if portrayed in the open position? I think his specimen just happened to be frozen with its mouth open.

monkey916
01-02-2015, 10:20 PM
True that on the mouth... nice pull Sal... right off the top of your head...

dsa2780
01-02-2015, 10:22 PM
I dunno about it being a striper, only because the time of year really doesn't correlate with the temps being anywhere near where striper eggs need to survive.

I'm really thinking it's a Wagasaki, and if so, that's just too ironic for me not to laugh about. The ice fish killed by the cold and encased in ice. :action-smiley-035:

Big eyes, forked tail, 14 fin rays from what I can see on my phone, and it did have a weird shimmer to it when the sun hit it. Couldn't be a shad, way too snake like I guess.

Don't know what the poor little dude was doing in the AR.

salmonid
01-02-2015, 10:24 PM
True that on the mouth... nice pull Sal... right off the top of your head...

Far from 100% certain, I'm a geneticist not a taxonomist. Next time, dsa, get a fin clip! LOL

Hard to see all of the features in the frozen fish anyway.

monkey916
01-02-2015, 10:24 PM
Yeah its definitely not a striper... was just pointing out the big mouth... cool fish.. and cool pic dude...

dsa2780
01-02-2015, 10:29 PM
Yeah I don't even know how I saw the thing being that its so small.

Whatever it is, I'm sure it would make a natoma bow or folsom king really happy.