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BassJack
04-23-2018, 10:08 AM
Fished with my buddy and his brother-in-law from 8:30 am until 1:00 pm. We anchored in about 9 feet of water between the mouth of the American River and the I Street Bridge on the Sacramento River.

After about 20 minutes we had our first shad, and the action was steady the rest of the day until we left. We hit the very end of the outgoing tide, but most of the time was spent on the incoming tide. We needed 2 ounces to stay down on the outgoing tide, but only 1 ounce on the incoming tide. We used 4 ounce pyramid sinker to spread out on the side rods.

The debris was moderate. We had to clear lines about every 20 minutes with mostly rotten leaves.

The best lure was the smallest Dick Nite spoon, but I got one of the next size up Dick Nite in copper/orange tail, and several on the champagne grub up high. Most fish were on the lower rig, but some were up high.

We were using high/low rigs on the anchor with a sinker on the bottom, 12 inches up from the sinker to a 8 inch dropper leader to the lure, and 24 inches up to another 8 inch dropper leader to a lure. It is similar to the second deep water boat setup shown HERE (http://www.bassjack.com/shad_tips.htm).

We ran striper rods, but only had nibble bites, and it was slow even for those bites. We ended the day with about 12 shad landed, four lost, and several short strikes.

Water Temperature: 60 degrees
Weather: Warm with slight breeze, sunny mid 80’s
Lure: Dick Nite spoons and small 1 inch grubs
Depth: 9 feet
Tide: mostly incoming, caught very end of outgoing
River Level at I Street bridge: 8 feet and dropping
Visibility: about 1 foot, slightly muddy

A nice Shad
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Another Shad
http://i67.tinypic.com/2iviel4.jpg


The cooler after the trip...ready for smoking and canning.
http://i66.tinypic.com/313215h.jpg


Lure Selection
http://i66.tinypic.com/a4xx5s.jpg

salmonid
04-23-2018, 10:31 AM
Woohoo!

smurf358
04-23-2018, 10:39 AM
nice

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onenate7
04-23-2018, 02:10 PM
Well done!!

Bigg A
04-23-2018, 05:11 PM
Nice!!!!!

Chasing_tail
04-23-2018, 10:08 PM
I've never seen spoons used for shad. That's awesome

Skypig
04-24-2018, 05:24 AM
Nice!

How far back are you setting these up? Are you walking/bouncing them back just far enough that the weight will stay on the bottom?

BassJack
04-24-2018, 06:27 AM
Nice!

How far back are you setting these up? Are you walking/bouncing them back just far enough that the weight will stay on the bottom?

Exactly. On the incoming tide we had some almost vertical with 2 ounce sinkers, right behind the boat. In the shallow water I could just pick up the rod without reeling to check for weeds.

The trick is getting the spoons into the water without having the hooks tangle in the leaders. I was using 10 pound mono, but will try 15 pound fluorocarbon next time to add some stiffness to the leaders. I was even thinking about trying spreaders...

QueenAnnesRevenge
04-24-2018, 07:34 AM
Exactly. On the incoming tide we had some almost vertical with 2 ounce sinkers, right behind the boat. In the shallow water I could just pick up the rod without reeling to check for weeds.

The trick is getting the spoons into the water without having the hooks tangle in the leaders. I was using 10 pound mono, but will try 15 pound fluorocarbon next time to add some stiffness to the leaders. I was even thinking about trying spreaders...

Might try a dropper loop. I tie them on short dropper loops and don't have an issue with the hooks fouling the line. The loop allows good action and the shad don't seem to mind
Spoons without splits rings go directly on the loop, spoons with rings get a small duo lok swivel to keep them running right, allows for color changes too without retying

I like to walk a rod back and try and find a school moving up behind the boat. I can back bounce this style rig forever without the spoon flipping back https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/8d3eb79f610b3af39e825bd5e43e768b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/7386ec319f4c6cdba4955ab75f74eb92.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/5cff8fafac864a03886a8367e376508e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/40d9e90aa9f7e9710e91f6aa2890922c.jpg

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BassJack
04-24-2018, 10:28 AM
Might try a dropper loop. I tie them on short dropper loops and don't have an issue with the hooks fouling the line. The loop allows good action and the shad don't seem to mind
Spoons without splits rings go directly on the loop, spoons with rings get a small duo lok swivel to keep them running right, allows for color changes too without retying

I like to walk a rod back and try and find a school moving up behind the boat. I can back bounce this style rig forever without the spoon flipping back

What line are you using for the dropper loops? Looks like about 15 pound test mono? Doesn't seem like shad are line shy.

QueenAnnesRevenge
04-24-2018, 10:34 AM
Its 12 or 15, I only boat fish the sac and honestly don't think they can see they line(or care). I like the heavier line; less tangles and they unwind better off the pool noodle


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Skypig
04-24-2018, 11:07 AM
Plus, those loops are really hard to tie with light line.


Spreaders might be interesting. I would try making some out of really light wire.