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murph
02-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Well been using my old Abu 5000 for years and has always served me well. The last couple weeks been using my new spinning outfit and one of the things I like the best is how easy it casts. Went to use my old Abu today and really noticed how much harder it is to get it to cast distance, is there something I can do to increase distance or is there another baitcaster that casts a little farther/easier that someone can recommend? Thanks, Murph ;)

Double_D
02-09-2007, 05:01 PM
Shimano Curado 300
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9203/scu30dfh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Double_D
02-09-2007, 05:04 PM
Pflugar President
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/986/presidentlowprofilereelaz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Striperman
02-09-2007, 05:18 PM
Amen on the Curado. I have one and I cant put it down!

Striperman

ghostfish_slayer
02-09-2007, 05:24 PM
abu revo series s,sx,stx,, daiwa steez..many many more.you can also mod your abu ambassadeur by adding bearings and adding the dual worm gear shaft bearings.the casting clutch and bereaks in the newer bass style casting reels are unbelievable though..

Pongo
02-09-2007, 05:27 PM
I don't like the "Thumb" bars on these Bass Reels. I have visions of pressing it down when I have a big fish on however I'm sure they cast well. Still using my old Abu 5500.

SturgeonVirgin
02-09-2007, 05:44 PM
Well been using my old Abu 5000 for years and has always served me well. The last couple weeks been using my new spinning outfit and one of the things I like the best is how easy it casts. Went to use my old Abu today and really noticed how much harder it is to get it to cast distance, is there something I can do to increase distance or is there another baitcaster that casts a little farther/easier that someone can recommend? Thanks, Murph ;)


Whens the last time you tore it down, cleaned and lubed it?

Mine are getting smoother with age, but I clean em once or twice a year. Couple of them are 7-8 years old now, really smooth

SalmonSeeker
02-09-2007, 06:03 PM
I have a curado, but you could try the calais.

joe_tomlinson
02-09-2007, 06:30 PM
I have one of the older model curados, and love it. With a 1 oz. pencil popper I can cast over 250ft. I can only imagine the new one.

chrome-addict
02-09-2007, 06:31 PM
abu revo series s,sx,stx,, daiwa steez..many many more.you can also mod your abu ambassadeur by adding bearings and adding the dual worm gear shaft bearings.the casting clutch and bereaks in the newer bass style casting reels are unbelievable though..

As Ghost suggested, you can upgrade the bearings to ceramics or ceramic hybrids and get the dual-bearing wormshaft kit. There are a lot of places that sell goodies to "hot rod" your ABU. A good cleaning and lube job can also do wonders if it hasn't been done in a few years(especially if the reel was dunked). Just remember, the bearings get oil, the gears & friction surfaces get a light coating of quality grease.

BTW a couple of my friends have the new Curado and absolutely love them ...say they can cast a mile. I personally don't know anyone who has the new Revo, but it gets a lot of rave reviews. I heard they slightly edge out the Curado in casting performance. This is mainly due to the use of higher grade spool bearings.

Hankster
02-09-2007, 06:46 PM
I've been wanting to get the 300 Curado but have been holding off until they start producing a "lefty".
Any idea when they will do that?

SturgeonVirgin
02-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Check this out, click on reels, then reel candy and get out the credit card. Good stuff!

http://www.hatterasoutfitters.com/



abu revo series s,sx,stx,, daiwa steez..many many more.you can also mod your abu ambassadeur by adding bearings and adding the dual worm gear shaft bearings.the casting clutch and bereaks in the newer bass style casting reels are unbelievable though..

As Ghost suggested, you can upgrade the bearings to ceramics or ceramic hybrids and get the dual-bearing wormshaft kit. There are a lot of places that sell goodies to "hot rod" your ABU. A good cleaning and lube job can also do wonders if it hasn't been done in a few years(especially if the reel was dunked). Just remember, the bearings get oil, the gears & friction surfaces get a light coating of quality grease.

BTW a couple of my friends have the new Curado and absolutely love them ...say they can cast a mile. I personally don't know anyone who has the new Revo, but it gets a lot of rave reviews. I heard they slightly edge out the Curado in casting performance. This is mainly due to the use of higher grade spool bearings.

anglinfool
02-09-2007, 07:37 PM
I've got a nice Pflueger Trion, which is about $50 less than the President, and I love it.

Double_D
02-09-2007, 07:50 PM
I've been wanting to get the 300 Curado but have been holding off until they start producing a "lefty".
Any idea when they will do that?

I believe they do have one

Griffondor
02-10-2007, 09:02 AM
My Curado 201 was the first baitcaster i ever tried...after 10 practice casts I was casting 110 feet with zero backlash and perfect control. I use it with power pro and cast into the weeds with no problem.

ghostfish_slayer
02-10-2007, 03:15 PM
i have a few abu garcia ambassadeur reels..5501's,6501's,6601 eons.i have a modded uc 6501c ultracast that is amazing.it casts so nice it has the added dual bearing level wind gear,the stock big spool bearings and a modded drag.it casts much better than my modded 6501c3's.with the same things inside,other than spool bearings.a casting reel has many more friction points in casting than a spinning reel does..the only thing a spinning reel has in the way of friction is the spool lip and the guides.if you can keep everything in the right order no line slap on the blank before the striper and then the choke and intersect guide set up for the rest of them to the tip you will have an amazing casting spinning rod setup.i can use my penn 706z and a 2 oz jig/flat lead on my custom su1264 surf rod and clear a filler spool of 150 lb power pro no *problem.going 20+ yards into the mono backing.it is just crude doing it.the reel itself is a beast and feels like it weighs ten times more than my surf rod and 2oz lead jig combined.. on the other end i can just about clear my spool on my modded team daiwa 153hstl with 12 lb mono on my ist1085 with no problem.i like casting it ten times better then all of my reels.my modded abu uc 6501c casts nice it is just a little big for what i like on the river for salmon and steelhead..it out casts my friends shimano calcutta 401te.same rod,same weight by 30 yards every time from the surf.the price difference was about 200 dollars,the modded abu being the less expensive one.

SalmonSeeker
02-10-2007, 06:57 PM
TADA!!!!!! ;D

Try this

http://www.fishsniffer.com/cgi-bin/forumsyabb/YaBB.pl?num=1171149071

blackdogbubba
02-11-2007, 03:27 PM
Double D nailed it. He list both my favorites, new Curado and Pflueger President. You can't go wrong with either (or both). :)

Skyhammer
02-13-2007, 03:57 PM
I love my Shimano Calcutta 200 TE GT, for steelhead and I use the 400 TE for Kings.
they are expensive but worth it.

SalmonSeeker
02-14-2007, 05:23 PM
I prefer spinning for steelhead because of the situations where you might need to use a 1/2 oucne weight. plus i'm noot reel good at casting wwith light weights on a baitcaster.

MikeD
02-15-2007, 08:45 AM
murph,

casting distance is controlled by the bearings on the spool as well as the spool tension adjustment(s)

upgrade your reel to new ceramic bearings (pretty easy DIY project) from boca bearings: boca bearings (http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=showsearchforpage&bc=SK&type=K&cat=rc crossrefguide&pg=5&mfr=64). a better bearing for less cost than buying it from Abu

no oil needed on the ceramics and "they" say that ceramics will cast a mile

here is a good overview (not for this reel but...) of cleaning up a baitcaster (http://calfishing.com/freshwater/shimano_curado_maintenance_guide.html)

schematics for your reel are here (http://mikesreelrepair.com/schematics/index.php?path=Ambassadeur,%20Cardinal/&sort=name&order=asc&start=100)

chris_fish
02-16-2007, 10:18 PM
you should get a team diawa millionaire i got one for my 11 year old son he loves it he lauches the lures he uses