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JimK
11-23-2004, 09:38 PM
A boat owner next to mine in the marina has a set of rod holders that the owner swears by for detecting sturgeon bites. They are "Y" shaped and move from side to side. You just tighten down your line and the reel just balances against this Y shape. Has any one seen anything like this? If so, does it work well?

Thanks

GCinGV
11-23-2004, 11:13 PM
They’re called Tattle Tails by one brand name and I use them for both Sturgeon and Stripers.
Balancing your rod is an excellent way to detect those subtle Sturgeon bites. One drawback though is if a big fish decides to grab and run when you’re not paying attention your rig will be gone. To avoid this you need to either tie a safety rope to the rod or stay right on top of your rod at all times and if you walk away for even a minute take the rod off the balance and place it in a rod holder. I don’t like using the rope because I find it to get in the way but it’s pretty risky without it and most likely sooner or later a big ones going to catch me sleeping. Then SS will tell me “I told ya so”.
GC

STURGEONSTOMPER
11-24-2004, 07:02 AM
If you ballance your rod...Leash your pole. You dont want to be cluttering up the bottom of our delta do yea ;)

2QUARTSLOW
11-24-2004, 03:03 PM
I dont mine if it cluters the river, and I dont mine catching a rod and reel occasionally.

Balance yes, detect little bites yes, leash your pole yes, put in rod holder yes, also if you are not activily watching it can also put on "Click". But remember to take it off, its kind of bad to set the hook and "cccccclllllliiiiiikkkkkkk" no fish and possible birds nest to boot.

2 quarts low with a boat load of fish

Strawbee
11-24-2004, 05:45 PM
any clues on where to buy these "balancing rod holders"??

2QUARTSLOW
11-24-2004, 05:58 PM
Strawbee, first of all, welcome to the sturgeon boards.

Most sturgeon hunters over the years have built their own.

Reason no one boat has the same beam width or mounting area, but one consistancy is the "v" notch style holder.

So most are made to fit the boat. Over the years have seen all types. Aluminum (Spelled wrong), wood, pvc, steel rod, plastic.

Their is a small part of mine in a photo. On the thread 2QUARTSLOWSTURGEON (cant remember the actual name of the post) its the photo with the sturgeon on the deck of the boat. Youll see just a small part of it.

This should give ya an idea.

However will build one for ya, cost, need to look at the boat. ;D ;D ;)

2 quarts low with a boat load of fish

Hot_Rod
06-07-2007, 07:00 PM
Take a look at our rod holders for sturgeon. Makes for a quick rod set and gives the rod stability in the wind. If the boat turns side ways the rod just pivots and is not as prone to dragging the weight as the boat moves side to side.

STURIPER
06-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Buoy 33,

How do they work when the boat is rocking? Don't the weight move because there's no give like a Y...

Hot_Rod
06-07-2007, 07:24 PM
With rocking the pole tip just flexes and bends down but comes right back. The technique for fishing in the wind is to get used to the pattern that the wave action is making on the rod tip. When it does an unusual motion you set the hook. You would be surprised at how well you can actually see the bite when you really study the action of the tip.

With our holders the weight will drag less than traditional holders because it can move side to side. You still want to use *a drift sock along with turning the rudder/outdrive to counter the wind as much as possible. The weight will still drag when the boat begins to move severly when the tide begins to finally slow down and change, but the advantage to our holders is that you can fish them more effectively for a longer period of time than fixed holders and they are much more stable than a balance beam.

Reel_Teaser
06-07-2007, 07:37 PM
Jim, I have 6 Fish Hooker Balancers on the back of my boat, caught alot of fish with them. *I have never lost a wink of sleep or a rod due to the worries of one falling over, or a fish pulling one over. *In fact a few weeks ago I had a sniffer friend stop by, he saw my boat in the drive way and wanted to introduce himself. *He asked me about the balancers so I explained and went as far as to put one of my Seeker rods on a balancer and give him the line. *When the Rod was placed in the balancer correctly I gave him the line and told him " if you rip the line as fast as you can and get this rod over the balancer, you can have it" well lets just say he tried.............

Reel_Teaser
06-07-2007, 07:41 PM
any clues on where to buy these "balancing rod holders"??

www.fishhookers.com can help ya, Happs Bait and tackle, Dockside, A few other places out in stockton........

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8854/img0486jr0.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0486jr0.jpg)

bigg_fishh
06-07-2007, 08:20 PM
Balancers work great sometimes but always have a stationary rod holder available.

STURIPER
06-07-2007, 08:28 PM
Balancers work great sometimes but always have a stationary rod holder available.

Stationary rod holders work great when its sleepy time.. ;-)

Reel_Teaser
06-07-2007, 09:08 PM
agreed on having a solid mount rod holder when it " sleepy time " I have since added a hefty rubber band over the yoke locking the rod in when im going to crash and set the clicker.

keciga1
06-07-2007, 10:00 PM
I have 2 of the FishHookers balancers. Got mine at Outdoor Sportsman on West Ln in Stockton. They will mount into any Scotty rod holder mount. They are a bit pricey ($35)

Reel_Teaser
06-07-2007, 11:09 PM
IVAN, gezzz man I busted my a## building them for you guys hahahaha when was the last time you got something for 35 bucks that would last as long as these balancers will.......35 bucks for a cnc machined billit alum product isnt bad.... hell I towed in a small boat on a balancer.......... was fun to do it

Luke
06-08-2007, 06:13 PM
I Like to use the balancers if conditions allow
[http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9489/dsc00090ms1.jpg/img]
Or use bouy 33's when conditions allow me to do so.
[img]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3157/ebaystuff027lh6.jpg. To me it all depends on the water condition and what I wanna do.
Both have worked great for me. With Ron's redi sets you do not have to worry about losing the rod and it is easily removed from the holder when a bite occurs. I have caught fish both ways.
Luke

nhbfishin
06-10-2007, 11:53 AM
Just no sustitute for holding your rod.steven.

bigg_fishh
06-10-2007, 01:15 PM
I found that balancers do not detect bites well in rough conditions or when the water is really cold they tend to bite a little lighter.Or a combo of both of those conditions and a balancer the fish pretty much has to hook its self.

levelwined
06-10-2007, 02:53 PM
Just no sustitute for holding your rod.steven.

If I am not balanceing it I always hold it sleeping and all. It is just my 2cents but as stated before they can bite really light and it can be really hard to detect the bite. If your rod doest not have your full attention you will miss more than you hook.

bigg_fishh
06-10-2007, 05:30 PM
I made my balancer for 4 bucks its a 2x4 with a couple of bike hooks screwed in it works when I need it.

FlyWright
06-10-2007, 07:37 PM
After talking to some of our local experts, I settled on the Fish Hookers for their quality and function. *I recently completed this set but haven't had the chance to try it out yet. *

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7417/rodbalancer1wp1.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rodbalancer1wp1.jpg)

nhbfishin
06-10-2007, 09:13 PM
Levilwind The bite can be very light. Thats why the rods in my hand sometimes you cant get to it in time. I have a very nice balencer setup I just usually dont use im not as confident in it as i am in myself. Whatever you have confidence in is what you should go with especially if it works. Steven.

Cal.Kellogg
06-11-2007, 01:43 PM
I love my Fish Hookers Balancers!!! They look great on my boat, they will last forever and I find the holes in them to be useful for hanging leaders and plugs. I use them in lakes when I'm mooching for kings and rainbows.....Cal Kellogg

bucketweet
11-02-2009, 09:08 AM
Here's my simple rod leash. 4' of 1/8" (iether bungee Cord or other thin rope). Maybe even less with Bungee Cord as it stretches (no less than 2' for Bungee). Parts needed 2 carabiners, rope. I prefer the Bungee approach.

Check out this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8088213355453040987#.

Just happened to find this video on Google Videos. This is not me. Tie carabiners with clinch knot 5-8 wraps on both carabiners. Maybe $3-$5 per leash (or less depending on how many you make). After losing a $1,200 rig I decided to tie these. Only takes 5-10 minutes depending on dexterity. My Carpel Tunnel sets the pace for me. I used to use shock cord locks but found to many moving parts even though it's 1 spring. I spray the carabiners with Rejex which prevents salt water corrosion and rust. Can't say enough about this product. I have an Ocean City Reel and Penn reel which is still in excellant condition. The Ocean City Reel has some cracking though. Otto Henze left Ocean City Reels and started Penn Reels in 1932.

Would like to find out the age of the Ocean City Reel if anyone can help.

Let m know how they work

backbrace17
11-02-2009, 02:03 PM
Here are a couple more rod balancer versions, Edgar's wine cork/rubber band - cost $.50 and my Capt Khanh's Rod balancer - cost $25.
Pics 1, 2, 3 are Edgar’s wine cork design. The wine cork works great but if you forget to engage the clicker and the reel on free spool, your rod will go swimming.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4624/edgar1.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/87/edgar2.jpg
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4820/edgar3.jpg

Pic 4 and the video clips are my design. Give me a call if have any question.
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2500/rodholder1.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhmdYIcp1o

xxxxxx
11-04-2009, 11:33 AM
A buddy of mine uses a bungie rope strectched pretty tight.....Thats All Folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RF

twoelk48
11-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Just rember a rod holder is only as good as the eyes watching it. So hear is somethng to add to the arsneal a rod holder that sounds an alarm when a fish bites. I"ll share this information to see who has tried it. We use to use a piece of angle iron when fishing off the bank to lay our pole in when nite fishing. at the top of the angle iron was a button the pole rested on from a bicycle horn and the horn was secured below it. When a fish nibbled the horn went off. Kent