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Darin
06-12-2009, 11:03 PM
I received my Canon 450 today. As I opened the box I was praying everything was there and nothing was broken. Good news!! Nothing broken and everything was there. First thing I did was grab the instruction manual. I open to the first page and start to read “Gracias por adquirir un producto Canon”. There’s the problem. *I thought there would be a English section but ..no dice. I purchased it on ebay like I do everything and I soon found out it came from overseas. I should have known when I checked UPS tracking and it was in Florida. I was able to get the English version online from Canon. 220 pages later and a change in ink cartridges and a drive down the hill to buy more paper I was finally in business. I went and took a drive to try and capture different scenes to get a feel for her. This camera has so many more options than my old Kodak I found myself reading most of the time rather than taking pictures. I have a lot to learn about this unit. To say the least I am VERY happy with it. A super zoom lens is next on the list. Here are a few shots from today. It was overcast all day so the lighting was terrible for landscape shots but good for flowing water shots. I found out how easy it was to take 400 pictures in just a couple hours. I also found out I’m going to have to get another hard drive if I plan on shooting RAW. I dumped everything from one of my laptops and will be using that for the time being. Most of these shots I was playing around with different settings experimenting. If you curios about the details of the shot download the free Fastone Image Viewer that Yak recommended. It works great if you want to know the settings of the camera for each particular picture. YAK I have a question. When i shrink the images for the forum they look choppy. But if I zoom in on the original its crystal clear? Should i be shooting shots in a smaller format for web pages? Or is it back to editing again??

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http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4192/69846464.jpg

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MB_Kevin
06-12-2009, 11:21 PM
Great pic and sounds like a cool new toy. Im still playing with the one I got last week. Can't wait to see the pic to come in the future!

Darin
06-12-2009, 11:36 PM
Thanks MB. How are you likeing your new camera? I'm dissapointed at how much quality is lost after I shrink them to fit the board. I am wondering if I shoot in RAW it will save the quality. I know I will have to edit Raw but its better than seeing a crystal clear picture turn choppy after resizeing it down. I'm going to try tomorrow.

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YakMotor
06-13-2009, 12:02 AM
COOL! *I like 'em all! *Favorite is the jay BIF (Bird In Flight)

Any time the editor changes size from original up or down it has to interpolate ... think that's the word ... and add or subtract pixels it deems necessary depending on the choice of the method being used. *There is probably a more specific word for the action, but in Photoshop there is a choice of three and one of the three, bicubic, has three versions of it's own. *Other two main ones are "Nearest Neighbor" suggested for preserving hard edges and "Bilinear" for which no hint is given. *"Bicubic" generic is supposed to be best for smooth gradients, bicubic smoother is best for enlargements, while bicubic sharper is supposed to be better for reduction. *I say supposed to be because in my actual use of it for downsizing it doesn't seem to be as good as generic bicubic which is default.

Check to see if your editor gives you a choice of "methods" or whatever they're called and do some experimenting.

Almost all camera originals will look better with a little editor sharpening applied and even more so if the image is re-sized. *Sharpening can be considered destructive as a edit technique since it makes considerable changes to the pixels compared to the original.

Just saw your follow-up post. Before resorting to RAW you NEED to do some experimenting with your editor's resizing and sharpening methods. It should give you results you won't have to complain about. Email one of your sharp no-hands bridge originals and I'll see what Photoshop can do with it.

Humm ... I'm treading on thin ice here as I don't have good technical grasp of pixel altering pros and cons. *Not a topic I've studied other than trying stuff out and deciding how it looks to my eye.

Your camera's built-in software also applies sharpening to the JPG's it outputs. *Find the menu setting and *experiment a bit with that too.

400 shots and you mostly read the manual? * You sure it's not a AK- Can-ash-nikov you bought? * :D

Darin
06-13-2009, 12:32 AM
400 shots and you mostly read the manual? * You sure it's not a AK- Can-ash-nikov you bought? * :D

LMAO its that 3 pics a second thing. I guess I got a little happy with the burst mode :D ;D ;D :o, it sure does sound cool.... ;D *I'm never sure of anything. What fun would that be. Yep, looks like its back to the books for me. Corel help topics here I come. They know me on a first name basis by now I'm sure, or at least my IP address.I'm surprised they haven't blocked me yet. Thanks for the info Yak. What fun would anything be if it wasn't a challange, right. :-?..

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Captain Compassion
06-13-2009, 08:32 AM
Very nice FFG. Can't wait until you get up to speed on your new toy. Like Yak I like the BIF pic.

CC

NorCal2500HD
06-13-2009, 09:17 AM
Great pics, what editing software are you using?

metalmouth
06-13-2009, 03:00 PM
Nice pics my friend! If those have a problem I can't imagine what the originals look like . . . :o :o :D

BuckSnort
06-18-2009, 09:39 PM
Nice pics..

that bridge looks familiar....I did some work at a town called cool...The bridge was between Cool and Auburn...is this the same bridge?

zhands
06-19-2009, 04:54 AM
Very nice Darin
That new toy is the start of something good
Great shots


Z :)

lowvoltage
06-19-2009, 12:16 PM
Foresthill Fly Guy
Did you get the DVD that comes with the camera ? Also *if you go to youtube punch in Canon 450/Rebel XSI you can spend hours learning new things about this camera. Picked mind *up (Rebel XSI) Dec. 08 with zoom 55-250si. I bought a *DVD by Michael the Mentor on the Canon, best investment you can make showed all the features of the camera. A lot easier than the manual to understand. You can get a lot of info. off his web.

http://www.michaelthementor.com/lessons.cfm?lessonCatID=1

Darin
06-20-2009, 06:38 AM
Foresthill Fly Guy
Did you get the DVD that comes with the camera ? Also *if you go to youtube punch in Canon 450/Rebel XSI you can spend hours learning new things about this camera. Picked mind *up (Rebel XSI) Dec. 08 with zoom 55-250si. I bought a *DVD by Michael the Mentor on the Canon, best investment you can make showed all the features of the camera. A lot easier than the manual to understand. You can get a lot of info. off his web.

http://www.michaelthementor.com/lessons.cfm?lessonCatID=1
That is a GREAT link. Thanks for that. I could use the help.

FFG