View Full Version : best hook and size

09-01-2005, 09:02 AM
What is everyones favorite hook style and size? Do you prefer a single hook or a double rig?

09-01-2005, 11:16 AM
I like Kahle hooks between 5/0 and 7/0. *I use a double hook setup on a 20" leader, 37# wire. I also have some made with Power Pro 50#.....leaning more towards the Power Pro.

09-01-2005, 11:39 AM
Eagle Claw Kahle Hooks 5/0,6/0,7/0 and 80lbs power pro leader. I use double but different set-up than the standard double hook rig.

09-01-2005, 11:45 AM
Yeah always different aren't you 916 ;D ;D

09-01-2005, 11:47 AM
Yeah always different aren't you 916 ;D ;D

YUP YUP ;D I lead i don't follow :P

09-01-2005, 12:01 PM
50# power pro, is 80 too stiff? I have a couple reels spooled up with 80.
I see some people using two hooks but they only use 2-3 1/4inch beads? Does bead color make a difference?

09-01-2005, 12:39 PM
Bead color means nothing. *They are only used for to keep the hooks semi-seperated, so they dont tangle.

I use 6/0 to 9/0, some single and some double set up. *Im still old fashioned and use coated wire leader, either 60# or 90#. *And yes its pretty still, but wire kink is a problem, once you get a kink you must make another setup. *But it does help keep the bait down. *Leader about 30 to 36", its longer than most others make. * Ill see if I can get a pic

Found a leader in my box, it has to be retied but youll get the idea, (30", (2) 8/0 Gamakatsu, 60# coated wire)

09-01-2005, 02:00 PM
Great, thanks 2Q,

Did you tie the leader on to the swivel? I could not see a anything, but it looked like a knot. If so what sort of knot, palamar? I am putting in an order to cabelas now (on line)and I ordered some power pro, wire leader etc. I am looking at some different styles of hooks to try.
Anyone ever use the red hooks? I know dinos dont see what they are eating but do you think it will make any difference?

09-01-2005, 02:18 PM
now those long leaders are for the bay rite?because in our river(sacto)the current is so fast during sturgeon season that we are bombing 12-16 ounce weights and i thought you wanted a short leader to keep the bait on the bottom.of course this is bank fishing that im talking about also.i usually make my own leader 60 pound wire and size 8-10 *gami hooks.30 pound fire line or 80 pound berkley whiplash line spooled up on my calcutta 7000 series reel:)the fire line is very strong because the diameter is not as small as most.anyone here fish out at merrits?

09-01-2005, 04:22 PM
8)wire leaders use a sleeve that is crimped you do not tie wire leaders.I even use 100lb mono and crimp thatwhen making leaders. 8)

09-01-2005, 07:41 PM
look at you GO 2Q. When did you lear how to finally post pics ;D

09-01-2005, 09:05 PM
916 where ya been. Ever since I got my digital camera at the end of salmon season last year. So the Carlo special is not needed.

Smith, just a bad pic. The sleaves I use are black so it blended in with the background. It is a must to use sleaves with wire and some larger mono. fishkiller all ready said it.

Striper_assasin, Ive always made my leaders this length, fishing from boat in the Sac, Monty, Cache, Rio, Decker, Sherman, Broad, not really seen any difference from a real short to the size I use.

09-01-2005, 09:15 PM
can i get some detailed instructions on how to make these?

09-02-2005, 08:00 AM
5/0 owner cutting point hook... i only use 1 hook, 18" 100lb tough line ex.... 2Q- you don't need wire leader with 80-100lb braid..

09-02-2005, 08:27 AM
I like anything from 5/0 to 7/0 Owner Cutting Points. As for leaders, I try all kinds of different stuff and hook configurations.

09-02-2005, 09:50 AM
Has anyone ever tried using leadcore line as a leader? You can get it up to 65#test and the line will never kink like wire. Plus it ties very strong non-sliping knots too. I think the extra weight keeps it on the bottom and with less water resistance in fast current, Thus keeping it pointing straight. I have more info on this if anyone is interested. Yes I have caught fish on this rig.

09-02-2005, 08:48 PM
Dino, now that's a novel concept.. lead core. I started using it to troll for salmon with Silvertrons last year and it worked pretty well. Would be a good way to put some extra weight between hook and sinker. How do you set it up? Thanks! FISH ON!

09-02-2005, 11:43 PM
I make long leaders 3 feet long, tie a large loop knot at on end so the loop is almost 6" long, then at the end of the loop cut it at the center, now you have two lenghts of line to tie hooks to. Its looks like a big Y. These leaders will kink but come undone with no damage to the line. If you used leadcore before you know what I mean. I would like to think it lays very straight and on the bottom better in any current than any other leader material out there. ;D I can't find anything in the regs that say I can't use it

09-05-2005, 03:42 PM
7/0 and 8/0 Owner hooks. I tie up using stainless cable similar to what 2Q uses.

09-05-2005, 07:47 PM
I have grown up fishing SPB for over 30 years now and my dad always taught us kids to fish with 40-60 main line and 80-100 seven strand cable leader with 8/0 old style kahl hooks I now fish 20 main line and 40-50 maxima leader with 4/0-5/0 owner cutting point hooks.My luck has gone from 1 fish in three trips to 1-3 fish a trip ;D

10-24-2005, 12:58 PM
I uise a size 6/0 Gamukatsu , got about 10 packs last year marked down to a buck apiece . I use one hook for all baits except grass shrimp which gets two hooks .

Only exception is above Knights Landing in the winter , use a 10/0 gamu and put 2 big mud shrimp on ( banana bait ).