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Trapper43
07-07-2005, 06:52 PM
Went salmon fishing at Monterey yesterday with an old friend. We had trouble getting down to the fish. He had one 8lb. weight and one 10lb. weight. The only fish we caught came off of the 10 lb. weight at 70 ft. We were trolling about 2.0 mph and the downrigger cables were way behind the boat. Not getting to the depth we needed. How heavy downrigger weights do you guys use????

Team_Sheryl_Lee
07-07-2005, 07:16 PM
i have 8# and 12#
just let out more line when they start drifting back
i have 300' of cable on my riggers
i have 1 electric and 1 manual

TSL

brian_m
07-07-2005, 07:25 PM
12 pounds is best for the ocean and 8-6 pounds for lake fishing, saltwater is more boyent then the freshwater so it holds the weight up.

hookeral
07-07-2005, 08:18 PM
I use an 11 pound salt slicer and get down to over 150 feet with the cable fairly straight down. My rigs are Cannon electric with 150 pound wire. I am real happy with the results.

Big Al

blue_chrush
07-07-2005, 08:20 PM
10lbs will work down to about 120/140' just fine...
the line angle is common and yes you just let a little
more out to compinsate for the angle....
as it gets past 140' you have to troll a little slower
or give up more line....
10lbs to 100' will almost be spot on within 5'or so...
so you know, using flashers down deep add to the drag..
if you go to 12lbs be sure that your downriggers and
mounting area can handle the extra wieght....

Chetco_Indian
07-09-2005, 06:31 AM
If you have elec. scotty you can use a 20 lb max but 12-15 will work just fine.If you have a cannon trade it in for a scotty just ask any scotty owner about his rate of return on a10-15 ball.

Trapper43
07-09-2005, 07:15 AM
Thanks for the info. I have Scotty downriggers on my boat. My buddy has Cannon. They are getting fairly old so he might be looking to change somewhere down the road.
Thanks again for the info.

gone fishin
07-12-2005, 05:22 PM
Hey hookeral

Where do you find the salt slicer 11# weights? I would defiantly be interested in those. The 12# weights I've been using still run at an angle. Plus I have been loosing a lot lately.. ;D ;D

Thanks and good luck...

Fishquest
07-12-2005, 08:27 PM
Cabelas sells a 13# pancake style weight that I really like for getting down deep (have saved the day a few times with fish 150-200'). A note of caution though, it is best to only put one of these out at a time. Because they are thin, a jellyfish or piece of kelp that gets caught on them will tend to turn them. If it turns it to the inside, it will run right into your other line and REALLY cause a big mess.

gone fishin
07-12-2005, 08:57 PM
Hey Fishquest,

Mickey has a set like that and they kept running our lines into each other. What we did was bent the back wing outward a little so they ran out away from the boat and that solved that mess.
Thanks for the scoop on these weights, I'll check them out...

Mickey_Thomas
07-13-2005, 01:45 PM
Now you've done it Ron, the 13lb weights I use are Hammers ;D mine are 10lb. ;D ;D

gone fishin
07-13-2005, 04:16 PM
Sorry Mickey, They were on your boat I just assumed they were yours... ;D ;D

How much other gear is Hammers... ;D ;D

I think I have a couple of your flashers... ;D ;D

See you tomorrow...

Mickey_Thomas
07-13-2005, 04:24 PM
Anything Hammer leaves on my boat for more than 2 trips becomes mine automatically ;D ;D ;D

5-Salt_Fever
07-17-2005, 09:52 PM
Cabelas sells a 13# pancake style weight that I really like for getting down deep (have saved the day a few times with fish 150-200'). A note of caution though, it is best to only put one of these out at a time. Because they are thin, a jellyfish or piece of kelp that gets caught on them will tend to turn them. If it turns it to the inside, it will run right into your other line and REALLY cause a big mess.


I like pancake rigger weights at 15lbs. Bend the blades so they plane away from eachother and aways retrieve the downwind weight first to avoid tangles. Pic's below

Another option is to load 200lb test braided line in-place of Stainless rigger wire - lot less water drag. Good option that permits less weight and can manage higher trolling speeds at depth. It's cheaper to spool 200-300ft and won't rust. Your willl need stops with braided to prevent clipon releases from sliding up when you reel in some rod bend.

http://www.salmonuniversity.com/images/ol_deep_troll_diag1_1024h.gif
http://www.salmonuniversity.com/images/tkl_16lb_discus_bent2_320.jpg
http://www.salmonuniversity.com/images/ol_deep_troll_wind_320.gif

Mickey_Thomas
07-18-2005, 05:09 AM
5-Salt-Fever, now that's some good info, welcome to the boards, I must have missed your first post but your second one is a good one. ;D Thank You 8)

65whaler
07-18-2005, 09:43 AM
i use torpedo shaped 7lb weights - i get down to 90' just fine. i've never ventured deeper. that torpedo shape is really helpful. the pancakes can spin when they get jellied or weeded.

hookeral
07-18-2005, 09:15 PM
I make my own weights thats why they are 11#. I also tweak the blades to make them run slightly out and then paint them red for port and green for starboard. I pull my wire at every hook up and never worry about tangles caused by fouling the down rigger wires. I have used these weights for 15 years and love them. The mold was a little tricky to make but well worth the results.

Big Al

5-Salt_Fever
07-21-2005, 12:24 AM
Glad I could help and thanks for the kind words. My first post was in the personal best salmon thread.

Cheers, 5-Salt Fever