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fishwrong2
02-04-2017, 03:10 PM
I remember reading a few reports that there was a plan to experiment with trucking some winter run Sacramento River salmon from Redding up to the McCloud, and then capture the down running smolts to truck them back down to the river to migrate out.

Looked it up and the last report I found was from 2015 and said the program might start in 2017. Curious if anyone knows if the plan is still in place.

Also saw something about the same idea on the Yuba, but sounded like that idea got shot down.

I'd like to see a few pilot projects to see how effective it could be. I know they do it successfully on the Columbia and Snake rivers, but those circumstances are quite different.

Just curious to hear some news.

QueenAnnesRevenge
02-04-2017, 04:07 PM
Sorry, but as long as our license fees go into the general fund and not into maintaining the resource I wouldn't hold your breath on these projects getting off the ground. It's hard to fund fish when we're busy building trains to nowhere and tunnels for the Resnick's.
While your researching
Look up the one where they put smolts into flooded rice fields. They're fields are full of bugs, the smolts were 20% larger than if they out migrated down the river.

Also, sportsmen can't even agree on projects. There are many vocal: opponents to trucking and net pens because of straying, but without these programs we would likely see salmon season closed again.
Propose a stamp to fund projects and people remember the bay delta enhancement stamp that funded mpas so they shy away.


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salmonid
02-04-2017, 07:26 PM
I'll inquire about the progress. Last I heard there was some issues with the project.

QAR, A large portion of fish conservation projects aren't funded from angler license sales, they are funded by federal agencies in relation to ESA issues.

HookedForLife
12-06-2017, 10:08 AM
I would also like to see an update on the progress on both the Shasta and Yuba river projects. Is it even feasible?

salmonid
12-06-2017, 07:58 PM
This is what I found out about the project to truck Winter run Chinook above Shasta dam.

The feds were ready to proceed with the project a couple of years ago but the Winnemem Wintu tribe preferred to bring Chinook back from New Zealand (long story but some CA salmon were planted in NZ) to pass above Shasta rather than use salmon from locally available stocks.

The feds said they would study the NZ fish genetics to find out if they represent a winter run Chinook population.

Next the feds decided against funding this study.

So the tribe started a gofundme to raise enough money to fund the study without using government money.

The tribe’s gofundme apparently worked well and enough money was raised to do the NZ collection and genetic analysis.

Sample collection of the NZ salmon is slated to take place next year.

Did you follow all of that? Kind of complicated for sure.

IronClad
12-06-2017, 08:13 PM
That would be interesting to see ! Arent most of the great lakes chinook from the McCloud ? I cant remember where the patagonia nook's are from but either they are tules or cali fish.

salmonid
12-06-2017, 08:22 PM
That would be interesting to see ! Arent most of the great lakes chinook from the McCloud ? I cant remember where the patagonia nook's are from but either they are tules or cali fish.

I think the Great Lakes Chinook were from WA state? McCloud rainbows are all over the world now though. NZ definitely has McCloud salmon but the question is which run. We shall see next year hopefully.

fishwrong2
01-02-2018, 09:38 AM
A belated thanks for the information.

I don't have the patience for proper science. A lot of days I wish projects like these would just move forward. I'm sure there is merit in trying to get the most genetically pure fish in the study, but it costs several years of data that could have otherwise been collected, slowing down the ultimate implementation of larger scale recovery.

Then again, the view is pretty good from here in the cheap seats. Patience is a virtue....

Thanks,

Taiki
01-10-2018, 07:57 AM
Maybe the Wintu can get the judge to listen. Quote from Taiki Of course you can trust the government just ask an Indian .