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MB_Kevin
05-08-2009, 07:46 PM
Is this one any good for editing pic's? I am thinking of getting it just for basic deleting out the background of pic or maybe someones face. I used to have software that was OK for that that came with my old camera or be able to use paint to do it. Now I cant find any programs that work good for it and they all turn out funny looking.
If not this one is there another one I should look at getting?

BuckSnort
05-08-2009, 08:12 PM
You can do that along with other simple editing w/ the software thats on your computer.... Having said that when ever I want to do some serious editing I use Adobe photo shop...I have the elements as well but have never used it...

MB_Kevin
05-08-2009, 08:23 PM
I don't know what is wrong with the paint program on my computer. What happened to the blur function. I am also cool with just using the spray paint to cover stuff up but for some reason I can only get a small one. It would take forever to cover a background. Maybe I just don't know how to use this new version of it. My old paint worked out fine for this and I thought I had some other programs that would do it. Is there one on my computer Im forgetting about?

YakMotor
05-08-2009, 09:08 PM
Master Baiter - Your program might have "glitched out" and maybe a re-install would fix it.

The way you have setup your preferences, like editing brush sizing, may have been changed without you realizing it. *I manage to change settings sometimes that throw my program out of whack until I figure out what I've done. *If you have time invested time learning to use your program so you are mostly comfortable with how it works then troubleshooting would be a good idea before jumping to something new.

In Photoshop 7 sometimes my brush size control would go "nuts" and not show me how large the brush was. *I'd have to save the image I was working on then close and restart the program to get it back to normal. *Never did figure out why it "fritzed" as it didn't happen often. *But, I did learn to work around it.

Elements from Adobe, the maker of the photo industry standard Photoshop, should be very good. *But it will also be a few steps down from their high end product. *Whether the differences matter to the non-pro everyday Joe user I can't say. *Other photo edit software producers don't have that restriction so they can give you all they've got.

I was impressed with the look of Paint Shop Pro X2 when I dabbled a few months ago with the trial download. *The Google search shows Dell selling it for $50.

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1184951547051#versionTabview=tab1&tabview=tab0

BuckSnort
05-08-2009, 09:11 PM
right click on a pic you have saved to your puter...There should be a list of programs to open the pic with....Also when you are using that paintbrush feature you should be able to choose a bigger size brush on the bottom of the screen...At least thats how mine is anyway..

CJC
05-09-2009, 04:30 PM
MB

I use FxFoto. It is a free download. It has a lot of features and you can use a few only to save your work. The clone feature in it is free to use.
http://www.fxfoto.com/fxdownload.htm

I use all the features and save it using SnagIt, a screen copy program. The free version (5.11) can be downloaded here:
http://www.oldversion.com/SnagIt.html

MB_Kevin
05-09-2009, 06:14 PM
Thanks guys! Im working on the downloads JT. Going to take a while to get all my pic in FxFoto. :o

CJC
05-09-2009, 07:24 PM
Thanks guys! *Im working on the downloads JT. *Going to take a while to get all my pic in FxFoto. *:o
Why do you want to have all your pictures in fxfoto? I don't even save anything in it. I just use it to edit the backgrounds out of the ones that need it.

cuhogn
05-10-2009, 06:57 AM
Is this one any good for editing pic's?
To answer your 1st question, yes. It doesn't have the horsepower of photoshop (to me photoshop is more focused on the commercial/pro market) and works well for the photo stuff I typically deal with.

MB_Kevin
05-10-2009, 08:06 AM
Thanks guys! *Im working on the downloads JT. *Going to take a while to get all my pic in FxFoto. *:o
Why do you want to have all your pictures in fxfoto? I don't even save anything in it. I just use it to edit the backgrounds out of the ones that need it.

I don't know it just asked and I guess I clicked the wrong button. :D Looks like a cool program. I still have to work on getting the SnagIt downloaded. Other wise it is good for what I need.

Thanks for the info cuhogn. Im still thinking of getting it if I don't find something quick and easy.

YakMotor
05-10-2009, 12:06 PM
I took a look at the FxFoto website thinking I'd like to know about a free editor that offers a clone tool and other more advanced edit features than the viewers I mentioned earlier. *After looking at the version feature comparison chart and the FAQ section and learning more about FxFoto I decided not to give it a trial run.

One thing that put me off right away was that when installed and initiated it would search your computer for ALL your photos so it could come back with a list to help you locate and organize them. *My experience with this kinda deal is you end up seeing a zillion pictures found hidden on your hard drives you didn't even know you had. *All the little icon pictures and other graphic elements that are used by other software programs for their screen designs are of file types that are found in this scan. *Games may have hundreds of them. *If you've only been doing digital photography for a short time and have just a few basic applications installed on your computer maybe this would work well, but for me I avoid it like the plague. Oh, should say that I discovered later this scan feature can also be turned off ... so that's GOOD!

Many answers and explanations I found in the FAQ section left me feeling confused more often than helped. *Can't say I could do a better job of trying to explain complex procedures and techniques, but what I came away from this is appreciation for "HELP" provided with more polished mainstream programs.

I do appreciate small compact fast running programs that get the job done without a lot of fluff and FxFoto may be one of these. *The file download is only 2.4 meg and that seems amazing for all the features it offers. *You can use it's standard features for free, but access to more advanced requires payment to be unlocked.

If FxFoto works for you GREAT! *It has reviews at Download.com and if you are considering the program reading those should give you some useful insight. *For me I'll pass on it.

MB_Kevin
05-10-2009, 07:29 PM
Thanks YakMotor! I will look into that one. It looks cool.

MB_Kevin
05-17-2009, 12:59 AM
I ended up buying the paint shopPro X2 and it seems cool. $35 on E-bay shipped. I only installed it today and have not messed around with it much. *My daughter has a science report on what vinegar will do to bones to make them rubbery. *One of the questions is what would happen if your bones were like this. *We took a pic of her hand and tweeked it. *8-)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/951/warpedhand.jpg

I also quickly tried to block out the background of a pic and it seems like it will work.

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3348/bubblecrab.jpg

Thanks
MB

YakMotor
05-17-2009, 03:35 AM
YEAH it's COOL ... neat effects. You got a good deal on it too!

Will be standing by to see more of your edit magic.

MB_Kevin
05-17-2009, 08:47 PM
My daughter and I played around with it a little today. *I read on the box that you can add a sun tan, whiten teeth and remove blemishes and all. *I figure you could but it would be hard to do if it would work at all. *It was easy. *My daughter has a thing where she wants to be an elf so this is what we did. *Next we might make her into a vampire but ran out of time.

Here we took out the blemishes, whitened her teeth, took off her ear rings, gave her a tan, *Changed her eyes from brown to blue/green, *gave her elf ears and changed the background. You cant really see it all in the small pic's but looks pretty good in full size.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5799/p5170012zqt.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6599/fireelf.jpg

BuckSnort
05-17-2009, 09:58 PM
MB, about your daughters report,

I have heard you can take a raw egg and roll it in vinegar inside a cookie sheet to make it long and narrow and stick it inside a bottle...

I have never tried it but a friend of mine swore he had done it....

MB_Kevin
05-17-2009, 11:20 PM
If anyone has some info on what an egg does after 5 weeks in vinegar it would be a help. She started it with a Friend who failed. Now she has a report due with no data. Any info would be great. I don't know if it would stay as it is or burst. Pretty weired it would turn out that way with only a little time in the vinegar.

YakMotor
05-18-2009, 12:32 AM
Good job! *Glad to see you've jumped in and you and your daughter are having FUN with your new editor. *A full feature program like Paint Shop Pro can be intimidating, but as long as you make sure you're not going to modify your original it's perfectly safe to mess around all you want with the tools and features. *BEST way to learn!

Trying to extract the background from around whispy hair is a challenge. *I've never done real well with it. *I have though seen some amazing results from folks who are expert at it. *If you get the serious bug for photo editing you might like to take a look at DPreview's Retouch Forum. *Here's a recent example of how various enhancers do their work on the complexion of a pretty face.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1006&thread=31886584

Been a long time since I've photographed pretty faces. *This is from a 8x10 print taken mid 80's I'd guess. *It's one recently copied with my point & shoot camera.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9897/modelhead375.jpg

I think my daughter was about the same age as yours when on her birthday we went shopping for a dress. *She tried them on and I took pictures of her modeling each. Only one dress came home, but we had pictures of her in all the others ... and we had a GREAT time shopping.

There will come a time when pointy ears won't be fun and most likely the lens will become a scary thing. *The age of self consciousness hits us all. *Get those shots while she's got a natural smile to share.

I have a before/after example too. *I worked on this one quite awhile this afternoon trying to make something out of pretty much nothing as my original is poorly underexposed. *For speeding boats I usually have less than 5 seconds to get the shot before it planes through my "window" to the lake. *If I have the red dot sight attached I just shoot from the hip so to speak and check results later. *My camera was set for sunlight and by late afternoon light had faded.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3449/trackerwkidscu477.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7081/trackerwkidsorg477.jpg

YakMotor
05-18-2009, 12:39 AM
Master Baiter - About half way down this page may help ...

http://www.everythingesl.net/lessons/egg_experiments.php

MB_Kevin
05-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Cool Pic's YakMotor! Thanks for all the help.

MB