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Collegebound
07-20-2005, 11:06 PM
A couple Questions: How much leader length do you want from the RSK to the weight release, assuming I'm crammed on a party boat and the water is full of lines. Also, should I let the hooks on the rsk hang free in the water the line or should I attach them them to the 'chovy somehow? And are the Jaws enough to keep the chovy in the rsk or something else needed to assist it? No one in my immediate family fishes so I'm sorta clueless on things like this.
Thanks

5-Salt_Fever
07-20-2005, 11:49 PM
I like 42 inches behind a flasher in normal visability. Will go longer and lighter on the leader in clearer water.

Regarding RSK I like a treble trailing hook (if legal in your area) and I like both hooks in herring and one hook on choive. RSK's can be a bit a hassle to load anchovy into without a RSK tool so for chovies I prefer Ry Davis Anchovy Special or Pro-Troll Roto Chip Bait model A for smaller baits - pic's and links below.

Ry Davis Anchovy Special (http://www.tyeetackle.com/anchovyspecial.html)
Ry Davis How to... (http://www.berrysbait.com/1/01/1003.htm) Select Lures, then Select Ry Davis, then Select How to Info.

http://www.tyeetackle.com/images/rhysdavis/as-armytruckglow2.jpghttp://www.tyeetackle.com/images/rhysdavis/as-armytruckchrome2.jpghttp://www.tyeetackle.com/images/rhysdavis/as-clear2.jpg

Pro Troll Roto Chip Bait Holder (http://www.protroll.com/rotochip5A.html)

http://www.protroll.com/product/23xxseries.jpg

Mickey_Thomas
07-21-2005, 05:09 AM
NO barbs or treble trailer hooks here 5-Salt but the RSK tool is a must for a good load with the head in the RSK ;)

Fishquest
07-21-2005, 05:28 AM
You can also dip the RSK in some boiling water and bend it open a little bit wider. Then you can load it easier without any special tools. The jaws will hold your bait just fine.
I like to use small, dental rubber bands (my kids have braces) to hold the hooks in place on the bait. 42" of leader sounds about right.

Collegebound
07-21-2005, 10:22 AM
Thanks guys
What if I'm not using a flasher, since they tend to tangle too with people who aren't using them, how long should the leader be? Sorry, by RSK i meant the pro-troll roto chip so I shouldn't need any tool to load them in, right?

misfits
07-21-2005, 11:12 AM
With the pro troll E-Chip models I will typically shorten the leader to about 30-36" depending if I am fishing with a dodger. And with this model you should have no problems loading anchovies in them also herring is a little more tedious but effetive. I use the small dental rubber bands to hold the hooks to the chovie but if you cant find any try just clear nylon thread wrapped a bunch of times sometimes primative but works real well.
chris

Team_Sheryl_Lee
07-21-2005, 07:41 PM
you said you were not going to use a flasher/dodger
i would still run a 3'-4' leader from the sinker release
as for the hooks i just let them hang (of course i have never been accused of being over intellegent)

TSL

blue_chrush
07-22-2005, 11:27 PM
^^^^ditto^^^^^
TSL, has it, go with 3-4' and dont rule out using an
APEX, in watermelon,pearl,or chrome....
they have great action without the flasher and
won't look like anything else being trolled and make
get the fish's attention a little better....good luck

bengyboy
07-23-2005, 03:09 PM
The RSK is a great lure and one I use the most. It comes with a four foot leader which I find is a bit long so I shorten them about six to eight inches which helps get them a bit closer to the boat for netting. So, I would suggest, if you're going to use them on a party boat,
to consider shortening them. Also, just stick the anchovy, herring or sardine in the clip and let the hook dangle. Be sure to flatten the barb on the trailing hook as the standard j hook the RSK comes with hook is illegal. Good Luck!

blue_chrush
07-24-2005, 02:54 PM
ps....
forgot to tell you that stock these things are
hard to open..and will crush the baits and cause
trouble...so
if you take boilling water and dip it in then open
it up,, so its parallel and then stick it under cold
water to set the plastic....and you'll have it

this is the best fix for these..... ;D

Jan_from_Humboldt
07-24-2005, 03:26 PM
These are what I use, they open up like clam shell and are held shut with a small rubber band.

My hands are pretty arthritic so the RSK's are a real pain for me. I rig them using a single 7/0 barbless siawash, I buy the open eye hooks and clamp the book on a good quality 80# swivelI tie my leaders on 40# I tie the line to the swivel , slide on a 1" peice of 1/8" plastic tube, a 3/16 bead, the bait holder, then two 1/4" beads and a Hootchie and another swivel

THE BECHHOLD ROTARY BULLET BAIT HOLDER
http://www.fishcatcher.com/fishcatcher.html#BULLET

http://www.fishcatcher.com/FishCatcher/pictures/head_colors_small.jpg

65whaler
07-25-2005, 12:39 PM
just to confuse you, muffin, some of us do put the hook through the bait. i hook the anchovy in a place where the hook is over 1/2" (or more if your bait is big enough) from the head clamp. i make sure to hook through on the same side as the line and spin fin. when you sinch it down the bait has an arc to it.

some will argue the perfect spiral you get by not hooking your bait is the ideal. personally, i think (and who knows) that by giving the bait a curve, it makes more vibes in the water and looks more crippled. good luck.

blue_chrush
07-25-2005, 06:43 PM
see this is where we differ....lol
I now use red hooks which I tie on and usally
use a larger one than the one that is supplied
with it...and I have felt that sticking the bait
will make it rotate, but will also cause tears in
as the bait is trolled, so checking your bait is
crictical.....just another guys opinon.....lol

Team_Sheryl_Lee
07-26-2005, 08:22 PM
i like red hooks also

TSL

blue_chrush
07-26-2005, 08:46 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D........TSL

Fish King
07-26-2005, 09:25 PM
I've always found that short leaders behind a flasher gives the RSK the best movement. I use a 22"-24" leader behind the flasher and 40" in front of it. Works everytime for me and for some reason I always tend to catch my limit first. Can't figure out why.... ;D