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MacJim
02-04-2007, 08:04 PM
I have seen postings about using an inline Banana weight for trolling.
Some questions
Does someone have a drawing of the setup?
Has anyone ever figured out how deep they go usinge Lyman?, *
* Apex? or E-Lure? I know lure size, line weight, speed and distance
* count, but in general.
Has anyone ever worked out a chart? *I have one for Rapalas.
Looks like the popular size is 1/2 oz... Is that true?
Where's the best place to buy? Tried Cabelas, but didn't see?

Thanks for any help...It's apreciated

I enjoy the Pyramid postings... I have learned alot...Jim

Mr_Ed
02-04-2007, 08:36 PM
Most fishermen that troll Lymans use 2.5 mph as a guide line.

A 1/2 to 1oz bananna weight is used.


Depth:

I trolled a 5oz weight by itself behind my boat at 100 feet set back and

it bottomed out at only 40 feet.

Needless to say for deep trolling a D/R is needed.

drstressor
02-04-2007, 08:52 PM
Put a ball bearing snap swivel on your main line. *Attach the banana weight to the snap swivel and add a duolock clip to the bead chain end of the banana weight. * Attach Apexes or E-lure stock leaders directly to the banana weight using the duolock snap.

The standard Pyramid leader for Lymans and spoons is 5-5 1/2 ft of 12 lb test fluorocarbon with a small barrel swivel at the main line end and a #2-#3 duolock snap at the lure end. *I like to use black snaps, but it doesn't usually matter at Pyramid. *Attach the duolock clip to the lure and attach the barrel swivel to the banana weight as described above.

When trolling Lymans with banana weights, the 1/2 oz size is best. *More weight with that short of a leader will inhibit the action of the lure. *Also, NEVER attach a snap swivel directly to a Lyman. *Use only perfectly round thin wire duolock clips or you will again inhibit the action. *A 1/2 oz weight and the erratic action of a Lyman will run between 6 and 14 ft down if you have at least 100 ft of line out.

You can drag bottom at 20 ft running a spoon with a 1 1/2 oz banana sinker at 2 mph.

Sportman's Warehouse has banana sinkers, clips, and swivels.

chicofishrmen
02-04-2007, 09:27 PM
MacJim, welcome to the boards! I assume you are asking where to get Lymans since the other gear is readily available most places. Lymans are sold at very few retail outlets, so most get them direct from the manuf. at http://www.lymanlures.com/

but a limited selection can be bought at this site;

http://www.whitesoutdoor.com/store/product.php?category=Fishing+Gear&id=342

Apex's/stingkings are also sold here, but Cabela's has a bigger selection.
Listen to Doc, cause he is the Master of Pyramid ( and most fishes!)

MacJim
02-04-2007, 09:39 PM
All
Thanks for the replies... Most helpful

And yes I always listen to Doc...he is indeed the master

Chicofisherman: I have lots and lots of Layman lures. I could not find the Banana weights online...but I will pick up in sacramento.

I was hoping there was a set-up picture of how they are rigged. Doc gave me a good description. My fishing partner is very visual, so I wanted to show him a picture of the setup and email it to him.

Anyway thanks for the info... Will be fishing the derby for the 4th year.
Not that we get on the board, but our fee helps provide those prizes for the real fishermen.. :)

chicofishrmen
02-04-2007, 10:06 PM
MJ, ok I figured it out. Banana weights are actually trolling sinkers which Cabela's has tons of at:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0012270113042a&type=product&cmCat=sear ch&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=trolling+weights&N=4887&Ntk =Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=trolling+wei ghts&noImage=0

They look like this
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/11/30/42/i113042sq01.jpg
almost every tackle shop has them, so you don't need to pay for shipping. http://www.fishsniffer.com/forumsyabb2006/Templates/Forum/default/wink.gif

chicofishrmen
02-04-2007, 10:12 PM
Just in case, you tie the line from your reel to the barrel swivel and add 2-3' leader to the other end and tie on your lure (at Pyramid anyways) but I'll defer to Doc on the leader length http://www.fishsniffer.com/forumsyabb2006/Smilies/worthy.gif

45_Auto
02-04-2007, 10:31 PM
MacJim: this may help. rigged a little different then what Doc said, but gives you the idea.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5108/pict0067ih8.jpg

I used a bead chain swivel at the end of the main line, and a ball bearing snap swivel at the leader end. And the leader is 5'of 12lb flurocarbon with a #2 duo-lock snap at the terminal end.

BTW: Shawn, if you need it, I've got a 3/4oz watermelon croc that I'll let you have.

Trout_Chaser
02-05-2007, 06:26 AM
The first store that you come to as you enter the reservation has a good selection of banana weights. I usually just get them there since that is the primary place that I use them and I have to get a permit anyways, so it's convenient to stop. I'm fairly sure that Crosby's has them too.